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Oh dont tease

You start then. Tell me about your missus :-)
Seriously, I can really drag peoples' lives on the open thread.

A co-worker has just sent this link around to the entire company: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

I think she might actually be serious. :-s

Outlook: The sender of this message has asked for it to be recalled....

Horse, stable, bolted.

did I read somewhere yesterday that Col. Gadaffi recognised the London rioters as the legitimate Government of the UK,

Brilliant. Even if false.

Outlook: The sender of this message has asked for it to be recalled....

Horse, stable, bolted.

MD: Dear employee - please don't send stuff like this around...

Ouch.

Yep, raid. Just been told to, and I quote, "piss off" by a charming officer.

Pile of building rubble next to me, hmmmm.

I'm not sure you read everything with understanding

Not easy, you post way too much, and a lot of it makes no sense...

Not easy, you post way too much, and a lot of it makes no sense...

You know why? If you asked my seriously what I think about all this, I'd answer "I don't know".

4 Police vans just hoofed it into the shithole estate near me down a non-through route silently and I can hear more sirens on the way. I'm going in!

I love a good raid I do.

once they've arrested a chap for looting, go and steal shit from his house

MD: Dear employee - please don't send stuff like this around...

Ouch.

"e-petition

Convicted London rioters should loose all benefits."

Loose their benefits as in free them?

Pile of building rubble .

Euph? All a bit much?

Which neck of the woods are you in? (quite sirenny round here in Bethnal Green at the mo).

Oh. My. God.. Want... *goes on Christmas list

Loose their benefits as in free them?

Yup, they would like free range benefits.

#middleclassproblems

Euph? All a bit much?

Which neck of the woods are you in? (quite sirenny round here in Bethnal Green at the mo).

Loads of sirens just shot past me in EC2

Yup, they would like free range benefits.

#middleclassproblems

Hugh Fernly-Wotsit has convinced me that free range benefits are better, not just for the benefits but for us to.

Loads of sirens just shot past me in EC2

Kicking off, or copper snatch-squad types making arrests now they've studied CCTV/got info from public.

Couldn't see them, just heard them- not sure I could have told the difference anyway

Loads of sirens just shot past me in EC2

?

http://wallpaperstock.net/fantasy-girl---sirens_wallpapers_15019_1280x800.jpg

Now, VeeVee.

I'm not sure you read everything with understanding or just skimmed through. In all seriousness, it's more frightening to see your attitude.

If you read the student protest thread I actually wrote that people who want to deploy firearms, army and water cannons should make sure their own kids aren't protesting there in the first place.

As for these riots now. I wrote few times in this thread on on my twitter, that the use of brute force will only antagonise people and bring blood shed.

Obviously, if things are ever to escalate and looters turn against private property and endanger human lives I'd like police to use baton rounds. At least baton rounds.

Imagine you have a family and you find people burgling your home and setting it on fire - would you still feel the same? Would you (or I) be satisfied that the offenders were maybe caught later on and maybe charged and maybe sentenced for burning all your possessions and perhaps murdering your family members with or without the intent? Not sure I'd like to wait for the legal system to bring justice instead of simply preventing the whole thing from happening. Serious question...

Hell yeah, setting fire to places where babies sleep = shoot the fuckers, I'd do it myself.

Not joking.

You know why? If you asked my seriously what I think about all this, I'd answer "I don't know".

Then maybe you should stop talking?

just a thought..

Euph? All a bit much?

Which neck of the woods are you in? (quite sirenny round here in Bethnal Green at the mo).

Crouch End/Hornsey. From what little I can see, 2 properties are being done at the same time. Only 2 vans left here now but quite a few cars.

qwe

A co-worker has just sent this link around to the entire company: http://epetitions.direct.gov.uk/petitions/7337

I think she might actually be serious. :-s

I'm in favour of the police using rubber bullets on people who spell 'lose' 'loose'.

Hell yeah, setting fire to places where babies sleep = shoot the fuckers, I'd do it myself.

Not joking.

What with? Serious question.

I'm Polish and I see myself as a quarter Jew, quarter Belgian, quarter German and quarter Italian who had a pleasure of fucking being born under a communist regime in some God's forgotten country of catholics and homophones, issued with a worthless passport which didn't allow me to go where the lager was sold in tins, while all my grandparents' siblings on both sides either live in the States and Canada or in Germany.

fucken new it, reported

I agree with the lost power of the police, they should be able to intimidate when necessary, not stand back and watch from behind red tape. I'm sure it was very distressing watching kids (that in reality posed little threat to them), loot and destroy their city, while they had to stand in a line and look on.

When I was a kid violins, I got in quite a lot of trouble rolling with the other kids in my estate, we would steal from eachother, we would steal from shops, rob mopeds and smash cars etc. But I still remember the first time I was caught, and I was shitting myself at the police, not to mention completely mortified that my parents would find out.. so I changed pretty fast after that.

My 'friends' however, didn't. Each contact with the police, rather than ramping up in consequence exponentially, kind of plateaud in significance. And for whichever reasons, their parents didn't make much impact on them either.
They started to enjoy the attention, official warnings and curfews became trivial.

So now, I know that a few of them are sitting in prison, at least one of them is dead, and the majority of others were most definitely taking part in the looting somewhere in the city. If I see them in the street, I have to avoid them for my own safety.

Personally, I believe humiliation and intimidation to be an important tool in police discipline. It sounds awful when I put it that way, but when a kid has nothing to lose, and no discipline at home, there aren't many other motivating factors for them.

/bring back the stocks?