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There's some ridiculous Golf Club thread fuel in this last couple of pages...

This is cool. A bridge and pier - man I’d love that.

Music borrowed from this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnQ2zOmb6Hg

This is insane, 3000 years!

I managed to get to my great grandparents and then it’s a bit hazy.

Yeah, I visited back in 2004. There's a local museum too with lots of family name stuff in it. Makes it handy for family tree research if you've got well known oldies in the tree.

^^^ I don't know whether it's because the BBC had such a monopoly of sports coverage, but some of the themes they 'borrowed' from existing music were either excellent choices or have become so associated with the sports that you can't hear the original without thinking of the sport! (Propaganda, The Chain, Soul Limbo, Pop Looks Bach, Drag Racer, etc... - think they also used It's a Kind of Magic for the highlights montages at the end of that rally show?)

Next up, minion memes

You wish

300+ years of dairy farmers in Cheshire. Not one French cyclist and frame builder in the mix unfortunately.

If it depends on physical ability, this opens up more things than I would consider sports to be one - including darts,bar billiards, shove ha'penny etc.

Indeed. Darts and billiards, weirdly, can be considered sports and are certainly treated similarly by aficionados.

@dancing james re: esports - if you haven’t already, watch a video of elite StarCraft or call of duty players. The people that get to that level need exceptional motor control, reaction speed, and spatial awareness, as well as creativity, and strategic and tactical thinking. I think a strong case can be made to consider them ‘real’ sports.

Chess is an example of a game that can also be a sport: a normal match is a game, whereas blitz chess (or whatever the name of the timed version of chess is, I forget) introduces an element of physicality that grants an advantage to the more physically adept player who is able to move their pieces and tap their clock more quickly. Whether or not that is enough for it to be a determining factor in the competition, I don’t know, but if it were very determinant then it could also be considered a sport under this working definition.

Have never bothered tracing my parents, apparently they only met once.

Just playing devils advocate on the whole horsey thing.

How do get a horse to do what you want?

The prescribed method seems to be good training and light whipping.

But some horses are not only incredibly strong, but also incredibly wilful.

So I could imagine getting a horse to do what you want to be challenging at times.

Just before I get piled on. I don’t agree with animal abuse of any kind.

I don’t agree with animal abuse of any kind.

However, longtime readers will note that Light_EDDed’s post did not reject the death penalty.

Mints? Apples for the most stubborn? Probably

Family trees are so subjective, there are so many branches and different possible routes to trace back after just a couple of generations.
Isn't there some king that essentially we're all related to à la Danny Dyer?
I'm always drawn to following back my last name, but even by the time you get to grandparents, thats excluded 86% of the people already! ( I made that number up because I can't actually do the maths. I'm sure you can)

How do get a horse to do what you want?

How about - you don't?

Isn't there some king that essentially we're all related to à la Danny Dyer?

Vi-King ?

Family trees are so subjective

Not really, just search for direct antecedents, just grandparents, no uncles, cousins, etc. Libraries here give you free access to the full fat version of Ancestry, it's better than the paid for version. That along with Wikitree and Geni.com let us peer all the way back to Gambara, Queen of the Longbeards, the Scythian Kings and beyond.

So I could imagine getting a horse to do what you want to be challenging at times.

My sister is a horse person and she definitely would agree, her horse is a catastrophy. I doubt she ever hit the horse at all.

But you do have to make the assumption that everyone just shagged who they were legally contracted to shag...

This is very true.

Posh for sheppy ;)

It is a mix duel and jewel from propaganda.

Death penalty for humans?

Nothing special about being related to Charlemagne.

https://amp.theguardian.com/science/commentisfree/2015/may/24/business-genetic-ancestry-charlemagne-adam-rutherford

But you do have to make the assumption that everyone just shagged who they were legally contracted to shag...

Like horse breeding