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Pretty accurate though, considering what was said in person to people he didn't know sat in an idling range rover.

#notallrangerovers

You're a fucking gimp, fuck off

He's got fucking form on this forum, not intelligent enough to be an actual troll, just full of self confidence that makes one stupidly arrogant.

Ignore is your friend. He’s been on my list since forever.

I really don’t care enough to threaten and condone violence, if he insists on mansplaining to black people about their brothers in Africa, local pollution isn’t going to be his only problem.

Some folk might not be predisposed to violence in the face of this. Just a thought.

https://bylinetimes.com/2023/07/17/gb-news-star-dan-wootton-unmasked-in-cash-for-sexual-images-catfishing-scandal/

Ey was kuckst du alter?

You made up the demos you went on with black people. If they were real you'd have led with them instead of using your hilarious photo of Seattle. Thanks for the entertainment. You're pretending to be a social justice warrior and doing a terrible job. By rights I should tell you to piss off and troll somewhere else, but I'm going to continue to debate your points because I care deeply about climate change and race relations in the UK. I've spent hundreds of hours helping neighbours (4 black, 1 white) who've been mistreated by the police or their employer or the DWP. Why don't you stop pretending you care and start doing something helpful in the real world?

As for demos, what I said was "I don't think I've ever seen a black climate protester in the UK." This is just a statement of fact. It doesn't imply racism. There are a few black people at demos, but they're underrepresented. This is also a statement of fact. See all the photos and videos of UK climate protests. A photo of one black person has been found. Your Seattle photo, and many similar ones, show that there are lots of African Americans committed to climate justice. We need a similar scenario over here. There must be reasons why the UK is different. Perhaps it's our information sources and how they're perceived. (I like to analyse this, perhaps because I used to work in journalism and PR.)

By the way, we're all using anecdotal data and making generalisations about this subject, because there are so few stats to rely on. My generalisations are based on chit chat with random people in Brixton. They're nearly all working class. I only have one middle class black friend. (She's a genius who used to work for a former PM. I exclude her from my generalisations.)

I should add that I don't like to describe someone as black. Race is a redundant and divisive notion. But I need shorthand terms when talking about a group comprised of British people of Afro-Caribbean heritage. I don't like to say Afro-Caribbean either. The people I know are from families who came here from Nigeria, Ghana, Jamaica, Eritrea, Egypt, Cameroon, Kenya, Uganda and Martinique. They all get lumped together as 'black' by the police and the media.

To return to black climate demonstrators, I'm surprised that you and the many other opinionated experts here haven't mentioned fear of arrest? The consequences are typically worse for non-whites. You could be beaten up or killed, or tricked by an undercover cop, or photographed, identified and fitted up. All good reasons for staying at home and letting someone else go to the demo.

I'll come back to other points tomorrow.

I should add that I don't like to describe someone as black. Race is a redundant and divisive notion.

you should have left this bit for the end for an even greater comedic effect

oh jeez

Unrelated to the current dumpster fire in this thread, the state of Victoria has pulled out of the commonwealth games for 2026. I really hope it's the end for an outdated empire hangover.
https://www.theguardian.com/australia-news/2023/jul/18/australia-commonwealth-games-2026-victoria-cancels-event-after-funding-shortfall

This whole post smells

I'll come back to other points tomorrow.

Please don’t.

How has no one swung the ban hammer on this chopsy little cunt yet?

This report might be of use to the unwitting racist among us. (nice to know the forum embraced much of this following the BLM initiative)

https://reframingrace.org/data/csl/

I thought this was an interesting read and quite topical given the current global heatwaves we’re experiencing. I can’t verify all the claims being made.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1680243524124516352.html

What a nuts story.

Well well well, if it isn't the consequences of his actions...

WAFC

Or are able to control their urge to respond with violence, which I expect could grow to be quite acute given that poster’s rhetorical stylings.

Again with the torpedoes!

How can we include everyone in the climate fight is a fair and valid question.
The answer to which, isn’t to demand people show you photos of minorities at protests.

You’re asking people to rethink their car choices, but you’re not able to rethink the language you use?

Edit: sorry, replying to the guy on the last page, not ^

Memes thread >>>>

And you have form for being a braindead twat.