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I don't understand why they call it an American dish if it was cooked by an Italian chef in Italy, just
using American rations is not enough in my opinion.

Hast du Problem?

Which results in mostly bland food while a similar approach in Japan lifts the ingredients to another level.

Codswallop. You've either got faulty taste buds or you've not eaten the real deal.

I lived with a proper nonna in Verona who made everything from scratch and everything came from within 15km of the city. It was incredible.

I love Japanese food but I feel a bit like you're comparing apples and pears there...

Darwin strikes again. More WTF is all the demands that the video be removed.

Darwin strikes again

Not unless they died or suffered some injury which left them unable to reproduce.

Saw that they’re effectively doubling tuition fees in September, and increasing the number of years you have to pay it back from 30 to 40 years. Also limiting the number of places in non Russel group universities. Wtf tories?

Doubling tuition fees in September, number 3 going to uni then, have I missed something.

I know they have extended payments by 10 years which effectively doubles payback.

Maybe, I can only compare it when traveling the country and in a lot of countries that are known for their food culture it's usually really obvious why that is but it wasn't the case for me in Italy.

Well I now know why I was woken at 4.15 am by a police heli that circled for about an hour and a half directly overhead. There's forensic teams all over the place, and looks like they were chased and caught just round the corner from me. Claims of 5 arrested and guns etc. involved

https://www.mylondon.news/news/south-london-news/horror-south-london-4am-burglary-27334555

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Protest outside BBC HQ

This is a 4 year old photo of people in Seattle. You sourced it from a news site aimed at an African audience. No doubt the journalist chose it because they couldn't find any black people in photos of an XR protest in London.

Why can't you address the issue of talking about climate change to members of the black British community who don't believe the media? The same goes to the others who replied to my posts. None of you even attempted to say anything relevant. Do you think you're being virtuous by giving people a free pass to drive a Range Rover in London if they're not white? How can it not be important to a black person in Britain that the climate crisis was started by white people but nearly all the victims are non-white? You're not helping anyone by brushing race under the carpet.

Please stop digging a deeper hole for yourself.

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Not sure this approach ever works. Leaving aside of what others said on here...

My birth country the Netherlands is mostly under sea level, so is Belfast. So I should care more, right?

Well maybe group identifies just are not that strong. There are ethnic movements within Europe, sure, others don't care and it's just people you like and it doesn't matter where they are from / what ethnicity that have".

My reply would be a "en ok but I can quote lots of Dutch / white people that don't give a shit about me, why would I?"

I mean...it's just not effective at all and you are assuming shitloads about people which doesn't work if you want to get to a common understanding.

I'm extremely allergic to appeals to nationality or ethnicity, wear an eat the rich t-shirt instead ;)

Good to see.

Get to fuck, you clattering fuckwit. I have been on environmental protests where there were black British people in the group. There are Afro Carribean forumengers, for fuck sake, who you should know, who are no kind of climate-change deniers. You painted yourself into a corner with careless racism and now you're doubling down on it. Is it just because you can't admit an error or because this racism is really you?

you clattering fuckwit

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Perhaps you'd feel a stronger group identity if you were part of an oppressed minority? In your own case, your nation has an evil colonial history, and it's rich enough to just carry on raising the sea walls. I see a strong group identity in slavery reparation meetings and marches. I always attend, the meetings are at the end of my street. There are never any banners or speeches or leaflets or posters about ecocide. But there should be, and the demands for reparations should be doubled or tripled. The reparations for slavery campaign is really starting to pay off. Let's add ecocide to it. Ater all, the UK's coal mining makes it the birthplace of the climate emergency.

So I found you out with your pathetic photo evidence. You've made yourself look stupid, so you go low and tell me I'm a racist. Please explain which of my words are racist. You can't, can you?

Not sure that you're aware, but making people passionate about punching you in the face, is not the same as making people passionate about climate change/slavery reparation/donating to charity/buying double glazing.

I'm.a green party member NU member, social justice etc. totally onboard. Will be checking out who supports reparations in the NL elections, words are cheap ;)

And yep ecocide should be added but maybe people don't see it...yet? No healthy land...no food...

But Brexit taught me nationalism and groups identity exist but cannot be assumed. And that often it's just talk... Netherlands did do fuck all for us. So ordinary people working together is where it's at.

But my identity? Cha, what's the use of one... really you will be assigned one but neither unite (left) not Netherlands (birth) did much. So I don't feel strongly about it, what's the use :)

There definitely is a solidarity between EU immigrants that lived through this, and the EU rights group is cooperating with other immigrant groups.

Doesn't mean any European or Dutch person I meet cares deeply about that all though :)

So I think as a starting point...it won't work.

A car lover might love an ecar maybe? It's at least better...I mean, heck maybe they love gardening and are worried about insects disappearing.

So I found you out with your pathetic photo evidence.

I did a quick search and found the wrong photo, Hatbeard served up a correct photo, but you still think you've been vindicated about saying black British people don't protest climate change because you have never noticed a non-white environmental protestor? You met two black Brits who are sceptical about climate change and you just extended that, despite there being plenty of Brits from all kinds of backgrounds who are climate deniers. White middle class conspiracy theorists are a whole phenomenon of their own, but the rest of us are just "brushing race under the carpet" for not being OK with your thoughtless take about (and patronising behaviour during) one encounter.

I don't think you're a nascent BNP member. I think you were called on some poor behaviour in one encounter and even poorer observations about it, and you've steadily, defensively talked yourself into a really shitty corner. The things you're saying from that corner range from the unconsciously privileged to the unawarely racist. On which, you keep doubling down.

Do you think you're being virtuous by giving people a free pass to
drive a Range Rover in London if they're not white?

Just lurking this thread, but I don’t think anyone said that?
I’d imagine most people on this forum are broadly supportive of stopping big cars idling, and you should be applauded for that.

It’s just you’re making good points, then torpedoing them with the language used.

Black people don’t care about climate change isn’t true, is a massive generalisation, and sounds a bit self-righteous.

Your brothers in Africa is another generalisation.
Maybe the people you spoke to were African, but not all black brits are, and do you get how it's dangerously close to you’re not from here?

You’re clearly aware of the issues and might not be a racist person, but those are not great things to say.

Just lurking this thread, but I don’t think anyone said that?

Nobody did, but having been repeatedly called out, "I'm the only one who can see the race problem" is the hill he's going to burn his cross on.

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punching you in the face

Honestly this is a weird and somewhat hostile thing to keep repeating to someone you don't know.