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I suppose all the people who keep seeing dead cats bouncing around (the liberal wing of QAnon) will be wondering why the Queen has stepped in to help Johnson.

Yes, they did rather blow the Chinese lawyer story too early!

Surely it was the Chinese lawyer that did the blowing.

I wouldn’t normally reply to you, but you have nailed it here Will.

Have to respect faking a positive but timing it perfectly to expose yourself to charges in three different countries

Oh god, Question Time tonight is going to be worse than usual. On the one hand Jess Philips will be sticking the knife in, on the other hand Isabel Oakeshott will be making everyone want to smash the TV to pieces.

I really can’t actually believe the allegations against Andrew with regards to the woman making the accusations to be honest. I mean honestly, how would you bring it up?

Epstein cultivated Andrew for prestige, Andrew cultivated Epstein for holidays and the hope of making cash. He is undeniably not the brightest bulb in the lamp - but would you assume you could say to a Prince of the realm “fancy a rattle on that underage girl?” and think it wasn’t far more likely to blow up in your face?

I reckon her lawyers are just sniffing a payday. Assuming that the Royal Family will pay them off to make it go away.

The fact that the Queen has pulled his titles makes it clear that this isn’t going to happen. Good on Elizabeth.

Why do reasonable people still put themselves through watching question time?

but would you assume you could say to a Prince of the realm “fancy a rattle on that underage girl?” and think it wasn’t far more likely to blow up in your face?

Andrew was choosing to spend time with a convicted paedophile.

Just fuck off.

This

Charming. I voice an opinion, based on so far unsubstantiated allegations? What a nice chap you are.

As for the photo, how many photos do you imagine Andrew has been asked to pose for over the years? Is he accused of molesting everyone he has been photographed with?

I think he’s a buffoon - but as yet these are only allegations. If he is convicted then I will be the first to say he needs the key throwing away on him.

By pillorying him prior to that conviction you are allying yourself with the very worst of society.

How many reputations and lives were destroyed by Carl Beech? What happened to presumption of innocence?

But you're not presuming his innocence, you are disbelieving his accuser, and for the most inane and fatuous of reasons. That you can't tell the difference between the two is why your 'opinion' hasn't been politely received.

Even more No.10 party allegations
https://twitter.com/Tony_Diver/status/1481741337951195136

Not to mention that by suggesting she is motivated by avarice you are pillorying her - which obviously isn't nearly as bad as doing it to a "Prince of the realm".

Noncense

And fuck off

No. I am suggesting that American Lawyers may be greed related.

If it was just about money, the allegations never would of seen the light of day and we would all be none the wiser about handy andy, there would of already been a settlement before the case was filed and wrapped up in an NDA, either Andrew refused to pay or the victim wasn't in it for the money so skipped straight to filling the papers

Folks, you can just put him on ignore, as I just have.

Question Time

It would be great if all the non-tory panelists got together and agreed to start every answer to every question, "I'm not sure I'm comfortable answering that until we've seen sue gray's report, but... "

Pollution warning for London tomorrow. Gov't says don't ride too hard. https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2022/jan/13/londoners-told-to-reduce-physical-activity-on-friday-due-to-pollution

As for the photo, how many photos do you imagine Andrew has been asked to pose for over the years? Is he accused of molesting everyone he has been photographed with?

No, just those he’s been photographed with his arm around in Ghislaine Maxwell’s house

Don't sweat it man.

When The Telegraph does that to a Tory PM its nearly game over.