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14 years for rioting. Wow.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/dec/17/ryan-roberts-bristol-kill-the-bill-protest-jailed

Just came to post that. Bet he's regretting his big night out.

Imperial overlord that has a constitution and lets you vote?

Em.

And didn’t invade, oppress and colonise you for a couple of hundred years.

So good a reminder me of my favourite meme. Hover hands, I am off for a google

K'hell 14 years. He did some stupid things but 14 years!

Current oppression consists of a £2k extra handout for all in Ecosse from our current vaders..

argument is basically throw a dice to get away from those tory cunts and try and get back in the EU.

remember that some of the most hardcore nats (the lunatic fringe) think that the best thing would be for Scotland to be independent from the UK and Europe.

I don't even know where to begin.

Next they'll be proposing Darien mkII

He was fucking stupid, the burning cardboard under the van was dumb but it was probably a diesel so highly unlikely to burst into flames before the cardboard burnt out (but was still a fucking stupid thing to do). But if you look at some of the people who haven't been jailed for killing cyclists with incredibly dubious excuses it looks like an excessive sentence.

The UK's top civil servant has stepped aside from his role leading an inquiry into Downing Street lockdown parties, after it emerged an event was held in his own office.

Simon Case had been due to report on claims Covid rules were broken at events for staff last year.

But his role was put into doubt after reports a party was held in his office while London was under Covid rules.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-59701369

Exactly. Made an example of I think. Part of homeoffice stepping up in quelling protest??

I would quite happily provide an inflatable boat for Boris, Liz and Pritti to head to France for a break from all of this. Admittedly, a fairly small (sort of swimming pool grade) one.

pour les encourager les autres

Edit.. was about to ref your post re the rioter but probably applies to HO punter too

How do the Met fuck up this bad all the time

Met Police's refusal to investigate No10 Xmas parties is 'unlawful', say top barristers

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/mets-refusal-investigate-no10-xmas-25729079

Bloody hell!!!

14 years is also the maximum sentence for causing death by dangerous driving - does this happen?

Tough on rioters, not tough on the cause of riots.

Look at the sentences for similar in NI. Jail?? No - that ain’t happening.

To return briefly to the Indyref debate...

I think Trident is a really interesting factor in Scottish Independence. There is literally no where that the Trident base can be located in England, Wales or Northern Ireland. I think water ways would have to be changed, huge bunkers and facilities built, and a lot of compulsory land/housing purchase orders made to house them anywhere but where they are. This would obviously cost 10 years and billions of £££s.

It then means that the current base would have to be leased from Scotland, either for the duration of the build or indefinitely. I think even hardcore Trident heads would have a hard time legitimising the subs as a defence of the UK if they were within another sovereign nation.

All the talk of renewing Trident at the moment seems to not focus at all on how much it could actually cost if a referendum swings by a few percent.

Anyway, fuck trident etc. CND 4 Life.

I think they’d put it in the US or Australia, Sovrintee of location be damned. It’s just a delivery system for US nukes, after all.

Thought the backup was to put in France but that was before Aukus

I think that would have failed the “will the French stop laughing at us?” Test

the current base would have to be leased

We'll I'd assume that Scotland will remain a NATO member, and with that in mind it wouldn't be that odd for them to have a submarine base on their territory that's manned in large part by personnel from a neighbouring NATO country.
It's kind of the norm for the smaller NATO countries to serve as hosts. If I am reading my internets correctly it's currently Poland's turn to patrol the skies over Iceland.

Senior clown retires from circus

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I wouldn't assume that an indie Scotland would seek membership of NATO.. The true patriots would remain outside the EU and NATO..

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/NATO_debate_in_the_Scottish_National_Party

A man who would be out of his depth in a puddle.