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They may of course think that saying "no" is all the strategy that they need.

Surely the (full) name of the party itself implies that?

Good to hear that the fella investigating the no10 parties had his own office party the day before - complete with 'Christmas Party' in the calendar.

He made more money when he wasn't PM and will probably find people happy to pay him again in the future.

You assume a Yes vote in a Scottish ref, and assume that Sturgeon actually wants a ref. Sturgeon is a gradualist who is terrified of a ref going the wrong way. The SNP still haven't provided any sort of economic plan for independence as IMO they don't actually have one.
Sturgeon's own popularity has nosedived in the past six months in an endless cycle of government failure in the Scottish press.

Edit to add.. Her treatment of Blackley,the Mail's political guy, in the COVID briefing today shows all is not well in Denmark

This made me laugh from a BBC article on the North Shropshire vote:

The PM blamed a "constant litany of stuff about politics and politicians" in the media for the result.

I almost admire him for managing to constantly out cunt himself.

Exactly. He can earn far more if he's not the PM.

But he can't protect himself from investigation and prosecution in the same way that he can now.

There was no detailed and costed economic plan for Brexit and that didn't matter either.

Neither did the Irish/NI border, all the practical issues...I think independence is very risky ATM but then the argument of being sensible is lost tx to Brexit and Scotland being ignored and shafted.

Sturgeon I think rather waits for excellent timing, but anti Tory sentiment may just swing it.

Sure, not "rational" but we've been there before.

NEW: A woman bashed on the window of Prince Andrew's car as he drove to Windsor Castle earlier today

The last Indy ref was lost on economic stuff.. The establishment playbook for the Brexit ref was based on the Project Fear narrative in the Indy ref (which worked). Currency is the real stumbling block for the SNP to engage with more than the face painters in Scotland.

He didn't even break a sweat

I thought it was 8?

Does he even know himself?

the key thing to remember with any pundit's analysis is that they all know less than absolutely fsck all.

If you think Liz Truss isn't evil you need to educate yourself
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/lgbt-adviser-second-quit-trans-rights-b1815690.html

Both Truss and Patel specialise in hostile environment creation. Just different kinds.

Yawn

Which is ironic as it means there was a plan...unlike Brexit. If indyref wants to go negative "England does whatever it wants, we don't even vote Tory" will work somewhat...

The greens also support indyref.

But yes there are big hurdles, such as currency and 5% deficit.

Problem is that Brexit will only get worse as more and more checks have to be done, so far those have been ignored.

If Labour gets in and positively engages with the EU / Scotland it will calm things down. Have to see what happens...

That's the thing. Ultimately Indy ref is all about the feels, just like Brexit.

There is no acknowledgement of how a future works with the country's largest trading partner, any current international rules, any boarder management, or economics.

This time the argument is basically throw a dice to get away from those tory cunts and try and get back in the EU.

+kill the Queen with sadness

throw a dice to get away from those tory cunts and try and get back in the EU.

Good enough

The irony of replacing one neo con imperial overlord with another is the ever present reality for the free state reduxxers in Ecosse.

Sure Jan

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Yeah. I mean I get it.

But there is a strong sense of deja vue around the feels, "what's the worst that can happen?"