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• #59202
I agree. But I also think there will be a few people out there who will think twice about certain activities given the US has now put them on notice that they will strike leadership not just foot soldiers and mid-level.
That said, it’s what Iran does next that is the big worry.
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• #59203
That said, it’s what Iran does next that is the big worry.
My prediction/guess/fear is they will launch further attacks on Saudi oil facilities.
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• #59204
who know's what form they will take
The Iranian secret service is highly efficient. Following the fatwah against Salman Rushdie, two translators were killed and a few more violent acts were carried out in various countries. This was done without leaving a single trace IIRC.
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• #59205
What worries me is how the conversation is mostly about how Iran will respond and all the bad or good things that Suleimani has done.
This is victim blaming on a level of international politics.
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• #59206
Not that the US will care but the UN Special Rapporteur on Extra-Judicial Executions seems to think it unlawful
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• #59207
Yep. Where they killed him (and who they killed with him - i.e. Abu Mahdi al-Muhandis) is also a massive problem.
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• #59208
Fires so hot they melt your sick rims... Tomorrow could be the most dangerous day yet, let's hope people heed the warnings and get the fuck out of Dodge...
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• #59209
Are we at Armageddon yet?
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• #59210
Everything seems to be pointing that way, Andy... I'm going for a nice picnic by the water tomorrow, enjoy it while you still can...
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• #59211
Nice one. Stay safe Joe!
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• #59212
This new yorker profile of Suleimani in 2013 shows how important he was to Iran and how powerful he was in the region, even then:
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• #59213
Looks interesting, I'll give that a read later.
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• #59214
Expect this documentary to be rerun soon. Very thorough.
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• #59215
al-Muhandis
The Engineer.
An odd soubriquet, unless Engineers are held in higher regard in Islam and or Iran? -
• #59216
I think you're translating too literally. It means more organiser/influencer/manipulator I think. Well, not what I think, the Arabic speaking lady sitting next to me.
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• #59217
I know no Arabic,
my translation is from the Turkish 'muhendis'.
Don't those actions have better Arabic names? -
• #59218
It depends what you mean by better. Its fairly common in English to say somebody is a social engineer, engineers situations or engineers an outcome.
Fucked if I know how it relates to the Arabic.
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• #59219
Although I just read that his first degree was in engineering so perhaps we have the answer to our question.
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• #59220
@Stonehedge is right. Its not A rigid translation. It’s more along the lines of ‘the architect’ of which he very much was all over the Mid East. Didn’t matter where you went, even towards the Maghreb, he was known.
His span of influence stretched very far indeed.
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• #59221
Again, from the Turkish, architect is 'mimar'.
Looks like @Stonehedge has an answer. -
• #59222
I think my Arabic speaking wife and Chak have the answer tbh. Whilst he is an engineer, it's also not a literal nickname.
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• #59223
How many wives do you have?
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• #59224
Stay safe, Ed and Joe. Hell on Earth. :(
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• #59225
Jeeps just been down a rabbit hole reading Islamic eschatology. Nice knowing you guys
^ Small tweak to make it more accurate....