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  • Or just say that there will be a vote at the end, regardless of who has/hasn’t spoken and for however long. Limit pro/anti speeches to 50% of the allotted time in total.

  • Filibustering is a disgusting practice. My best suggestion would be that voters make it clear to their candidates that they expect fair play at all times.... but therein lies the problem methinks.
    People seem to admire such shenanigans if it promotes their own interests. I follow Jezebel from time to time (a leftie feminist website) and there they were raving when a state politician prevented some nasty anti abortion legislation trough filibustering.

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-glasgow-west-44504659

    Glasgow School of Art gutted by fire, again. Awful news, this is such an important building.

  • this is such an important building.

    Indeed, and the interiors are so important too, even if the structure is intact the loss is still huge.

  • There used to be 24 hour security there 7 days a week, 365 days a year. Possibly very drunk security but security nonetheless...

    I can't believe that even after the last fire, and 35 million refurb, a passing policeman has to raise the alarm when the place is already totally ablaze. No functioning alarm system, sprinklers, or security on site for what's supposed to be one of the country's most significant architectural landmarks?

    All the hand-wringing and poetic sentiment is touching but the school custodians/management should be getting their P45's. Fool me once...

  • If they were still restoring the building then it is likely that the fire alarm would not be commissioned yet, same goes for a sprinkler system, leaving aside the difficulties of sensitively integrating one into a Grade 1 listed building.

  • https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44507135

    Billy gets his thc containing cannabis oil after all as a "medical emergency".

    Dumb it has to get that far, now let's see if it's a nice publicity stunt or if the family can permanently use it & more sensible laws regarding thc containing products for medical use.

  • Hopefully the world will soon realise how much relief it brings to so many suffering with seizures or chronic pain... I've seen the instant results first hand, it's almost unbelievable...

  • I know that sounds reasonable, but I know from people who work there and working there myself in the aftermath that the first incidence of fire wasn't without a hefty portion of negligence on the part of the school as much as it was played down for the purpose of maximum insurance/media value and the narrative of the student's work catching fire became set in stone. Yes, that was the initial cause but there were some quite acute circumstances that exacerbated the damage and allowed the fire to spread so quickly from the basement to the roof. Blaming it on the student was a convenient way of deflecting attention from their own failures...

    Obviously its early days and the cause of it could have been exceptional, but I really struggle to believe that lessons were learned from the first time around and if there wasn't a functioning alarm/sprinklers there should have been other provisions. In WW2 there were fire wardens permanently in the roof just in case it was hit with incendiary bombs... it's not far fetched to say that something similar would be justified now.

    Unfortunately that kind of functional minutiae has from my experience never been as glamorous and exciting for the school directors as showing people around the site and grandstanding for the media, and I fear that the international attention and financial generosity the last tragedy was met with won't have cultivated the appropriate remorse...

  • FWIW just got a message from someone who knows what went on in the bid process for the refurb.

    The school chose not to install a fire/gas suppression system because it was "too expensive" and "wouldn't happen twice" apparently.

    Useless fucks.

  • Reminds me of the publishing company I used to freelance for who decided to drop their terrorism insurance a couple of months before the Canary Wharf (actually South Quay) bomb condemned the building they owned outright... Idiots...

  • Glasgow School of Art gutted by fire. Optimo was such fun.

  • The music venue is in a different building. The O2 ABC is destroyed though, which is a pretty big blow to the city's live music scene.

    I was out last night and saw the fire, it was way more savage than the first one. Someone is in deep shit. Hope they manage to salvage something. Cycled past the mackintosh school on Scotland street today and there were balloons inside for his 150th. Tragic.

  • I spoke to woman with brain damage from a serious car crash, the medication to stop her seizures made her so sick the nurses / caretakers in the local hospital in Northern Ireland rather had her use her thc cannabis oil.

    But the hospital manager didn't allow it, which I can understand but it is moronic that something that works so well isn't even decriminalized.

    I can understand it is not yet generally prescribed, needs to go through all proper R&D to be medication and costings but this just baffles me.

  • I thought Sativex contained THC which is available on prescription ?

  • There are hundreds of helpful cannabinoids. The THC group is just one.

    A friend I know who takes Sativex for her MS says that the over the counter CBD oil she gets From Holland and Barrett is more effective for her. Anecdotally, whole plant extracts with or without THC have much better reviews.

    Ultimately it's about finding the product that works best for your symptoms. Sativex isn't a golden bullet.

  • Thanks for the extra info :)

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  • You are right...which makes this ban even more ridiculous to me.

    Cannabis, the plant, is classed as an "OMFG class B drug"... But CBD oil is legal. So the only logic I could see is the thc content.

    Billy (the boy involved) has a prescription worked out by someone in Canada where it is legal. Another UK boy has to go the Netherlands.

  • Sativex is OK but proper cannabis oil is the real deal... It will come...

  • Lolz.


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  • How the fuck is a prison 'Halal'?!

  • Simple - traditionally in the UK we have built prisons out of Pork, a Halal prison is a new initiative where we substitute Puffins for the Pigs used previously.

  • A gammon in a halal prison?

  • The Government isn't paying interest on the property and is in a co-ownership deal and paying 'rent'?

    Sounds like a PFI (a PPP) agreement is actually Halal bizarrely.

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