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• #44627
Islamophobia is often used to stifle by groups to stifle genuine criticism about ideas in the Islamic religion. (Not that this is a monobloc no religion is)
Anti Muslim bigotry is a better definition imho. Islam is an ideology and open to debate,like any ideology. But of course motions to publicly condemn anti Muslim.(people) discrimination are good.
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• #44628
^ So is antisemitism. All words that describe genuine bigotry can be twisted to apply in inappropriate circumstances to suit political or ideological ends. That's how language works. For example the term "racist" is commonly extended to issues that have nothing to do with race.
In my experience, if an argument (such as lasyrabbit's above) descends quickly into semantic disagreement then it probably wasn't very strong in the first place.
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• #44629
What about the bloody fundamentalists the splitters.
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• #44630
Language matters. The fact semantic disagreeing exists is because language does matter.
I don't agree using racism for xenophobia either. It muddies the water because we think A but say B.
If the government means anti Muslims hatred then use that. It's especially important i think governments are more accurate to prevent hijacking of laws by pressure groups.
Don't use a term that is already being abuse at the moment to stifle debate. It's a pain that everything has to be defined to the umpteenth extent these days but if we don't we give some people an easy run.
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• #44631
It's a pain that everything has to be defined to the umpteenth extent these days but if we don't we give some people an easy run.
On the other hand, having very specific laws creates the possibility of legal loopholes and requires specific laws against every possible variable.
Discrimination/abuse/violence etc is simply that, regardless of what provoked it.
I don't see the need for laws against discrimination/abuse/violence, * specifically based upon someone's race/religion/gender/sexual preference etc*, when the existing, broader laws prohibit these.
That's not to say I don't see the value in a government, or any other body, publicly stating their opposition to particular problems as they come to prominence, which is the case with the Canadian motion.
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• #44633
Redrum redrum redrum
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• #44634
The whole Legsit thing is even worse if you read the actual article
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• #44635
I actually can't even make it past half way through the 2nd paragraph.
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• #44636
anyone else have cancer now?
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• #44637
Just of the eyes and brain. I'm otherwise fine.
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• #44638
I long for an article on badly dressed male politicians .
For example: Boris and the Donald both insist on wearing suits that don't fit them, suits are either blue or grey or blue or grey
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• #44639
i long for a feature length HD video showing paul dacre being eaten alive from the feet up by starving boars. hope springs eternal.
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• #44640
If true (and I assume it is) I find this shocking:
tldr, climate data is being deleted. Literally lost forever. I'm not sure how this is even possible (how is all this stuff kept in one place to allow for an effective deletion).
According to the article it's happened previously in Canada a couple of years ago, in which case it seems like a dereliction of duty of involved scientists not to have secured backups since then. Even so, it's amazing that knowledge is being wiped out.
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• #44641
Who controls the past controls the future; who controls the present controls the past
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• #44642
Alright George leave it out. Although it is a doubleplusgood quote.
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• #44643
who controls the spice controls the universe...
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• #44644
who let the dogs out?
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• #44645
suits that don't fit them, suits are either blue or grey or blue or grey
Looks at current array of suits that don't quite fit. Oh
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• #44646
No one cares doe cause I'm a bloke init
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• #44647
gitabitan in reply to @jimmy_james
The past and future do not exist. It is foolish to live anywhere but the moment you are present in, you can only be happy now. Most of these shared stories are based on "what if I ... ?" and there is no answer because your imagination creates your destiny
There is freedom
waiting for you
on the breezes
of the sky
and you ask
"what if I fall?"
oh but my darling
what if you fly -
• #44648
you can only be happy now
I should probably knock off early then.
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• #44649
Yeah - deal with it tomorrow.
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• #44650
Male politicians don't wear shorts, so how can anyone ogle their legs and write Fifty Shades of Nylon slashfiction-style newspaper columns.
Unless they want to divine the future based on the way the thread of their trousers is woven I guess... ;)
With a daesh of hundreds and thousands over the top.