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When the Congestion Charge was mooted there was a concerted effort by the extreme petrolhead lobby against it. The Evening Standard joined in- Londoners would be in gridlock, they predicted, house prices would collapse, crime would be rampant, blah blah blah. None of that happened, but because traffic light sequences were scheduled to be altered before Ken was even elected he got the blame for a silly vast conspiracy.

conservationism v environmentalism

you guys

Culling deer / grouse is not the same as wiping out rhinos. It's fine to hate the royals, but there are better reasons than William's attempts to protect endangered species.

Tell that to the deer / grouse.

That's like saying if you manage a garden and like flowers you're not allowed to cut the grass.

No it's not. It's like saying if you manage a garden and like flowers you probably shouldn't destroy someone else's garden and flowers.

There are many reasons to hate the royals, this is another one of them. Being a professional philanthropist on the tax payers pound and ill-gotten wealth does not make you a good person.

There's a difference between an endangered species, and a species that will get too large to be supported by it's own habitat because we have long killed off it's predators. The people who look after the deer populations in Scotland love these animals, and know more about them, than we ever will. William is a small, but prominent part of it.

Hating the royals is like hating a tree, or hating a chair, or hating a sausage, or hating a window, or hating a frog, or hating a bottle of Evian, or hating a patch of grass, or hating a wishing well, or hating a microwave, or hating a remote control, or hating a pen, or hating a plug socket..

How could you hate a tree? Some people are just awful.

putting wills and phillip as the figure head of these organisations is like putting this guy

in charge of the vegan society

just found this funny tree pichore

it's the delight they seem to take in the slaughtering of animals that sticks in many a craw. if they want to occupy some manner of moral high ground, make them hunt the poor fucking things in just their underpants, armed with a pointy stick.

cunts.

Yeah but millions of people behave like that.

Being a professional philanthropist on the tax payers pound and
ill-gotten wealth does not make you a good person.

Likewise, being born and raised in a position of privilege does not make you a bad one. I must admit to being not all that bothered about the Royals though.

Human management of an idealised, artificial environment (grouse / deer estates, salmon rivers, carp lakes, even urban gardens) is an interesting argument though. But I feel maybe not for this thread!

hating a tree

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqyixwqiCag

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X_Ot0k4XJc

Being born and raised in a position of undeserved privilege when there is so much inequality and doing nothing about it makes you a bad person (or a tory).

Where do we set the the bar then?

insert inherited wealth rant here

They're called pikes. But outside the Tower would be fitting.

but... but... but... TOURISM! and... and... TRADITION!

Traditionally, monarchs are killed by touring armies.

and the french put their lot to the guillotine some 230 years ago and people still queue up to go into the palace of versailles.

^^ or their own families or hereditary conditions caused by centuries of inbreeding.

They also don't have to put up with any current residents getting in the way!

lets move on

Russia's Usmanov to give back Watson's auctioned Nobel medal

so... we can kill the royal family, but not the pigeons?

i can't keep up.

kill is a strong word. deport them to a sink estate in a rough end of Rotherham on ever dwindling benefits whilst trying to hold down two jobs would be adequate.