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there were about 8 dads weren't there.

they should run an ovary armistice in exchange for flying lessons. or maybe free flying lessons with every sterilisation campaign.

If that is so, they should all be paying maintenance... if they work...

these posts are getting a bit sexist and i'm getting annoyed.

But you can afford an interventionist foreign policy?

What? I can afford an interventionist foreign policy? I can't afford a foreign holiday. Who is this "you". If you mean, "us" the British (not sure where you are), then yeah, we should have left the Americans to it. It was their fight as far as I could tell. Don't know we got involved. But that is definitely a different conversation.

It's gone all Daily Mail in here recently, hasn't it?

It's fucking unbearable.

steady on mums.

go Ed, you were missed.

steady on mums.

Is that to me Ed ?

She needs 11 kids because of the romanian child slavery gangs that are popping up everywhere, stealing our children.

Council do have a duty of care, that's right. And I am not a Tory, but this sort of thing does perplex me. I work, so each commitment I enter into has to be weighed up, and that includes having another child (I have three, so no more, but hypothetically speaking). I have to do that, so why should someone who is living on benefits, that is my tax, not have to make the same decisions? We pay benefits based on someone's needs, but I think there should be a maximum - why is it right that there needs can keep on being met as they expand (to 11 fucking kids for fuck's sake!), and continue to be met indefinitely, whereas mine can only be met up to a point - i.e the limits of my paypacket?

I would love to hear someone explain why?

this might interest you.

for example,

Myth 9: “There are large numbers of families receiving out-of-work benefits
living in expensive houses the vast majority of people could never afford”/ “the state pays for workless people to live in mansions”
The truth is that only a small number of households were receiving support through Housing Benefit worth £50,000 or more a year before a cap came in on the amount of support a household can receive through Housing Benefit (£20,800 a year).
 In March 2012 just 110 households in receipt of Housing Benefit received over £50,000 a year (out of 5,014,650 recipients)
 According to the latest DWP figures, the average Housing Benefit award is £4651.92 a year.
 In fact, only 0.037% of Housing Benefit claimants are receiving more than £30,000 per annum and most of those are receiving between £30,000 and £40,000.
 Surprisingly a third of children in poverty live in owner-occupier families with around a third in social housing and a third in privately rented housing.

^ Facts don't sell papers though

Fact.

LOL £50. Guess again.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flying-Lesson-Gift-Voucher-Great-special-experience-/170993030263?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item27cffa9477

30 minute lesson, fiddy dorrar.

Lost the AAA. Oh Giddion.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Flying-Lesson-Gift-Voucher-Great-special-experience-/170993030263?pt=UK_Tickets_Tickets_LE&hash=item27cffa9477

30 minute lesson, fiddy dorrar.

Lol. I won't even bother responding to that.

Lost the AAA. Oh Giddion.

Aaapocalypse

Thats for a microlight. They are about £170 per hour for a cessna

^^Join the Air Training Corps* - proper lessons with trained RAF pilots for a fiver.

*in 1987

Thats for a microlight. They are about £170 per hour for a cessna

It may also explain how Miss Frost had the money to pay for Jake Martin to have microlight flying lessons, which cost up to £115 an hour, for Christmas one year, according to Martin’s 34-year-old daughter, Leanne, from another relationship.

One off gift of microlight lessons for her partner.

a dole person rich enough to afford christmas presents! burn them, only people in jobs are allowed to have a normal standard of living...

Whoa, don't want to get involved in a pointless online argument, I am just here for flying talk. I don't have much of an opinion on distorted stories in the Sun

Yes dfp you can get small discounts if you drop like a grand at a time, not loads though. Its quite a bit cheaper back in Yorkshire compared to down here

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/feb/23/oxford-union-boycott-israel

Scroll down to the last paragraph.

this might interest you.

I know all this, but fair enough for pointing it out.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/education/2013/feb/23/oxford-union-boycott-israel

Scroll down to the last paragraph.

WOW...did not see that coming. That is horrible, I despair at humanity.

wtf!
That's the club our leaders bulling to

I agree. It's a disgrace. £50! They could easily afford one or even two hundred.