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  • What I heard on the news is that there are a couple of levels that that conviction needs to go through yet.

    If I recall correctly (what I just read on a friends facebook page), Berlusconi passed a law whilst he was in power preventing anyone over 70 years of age being jailed... So he probably won't actually serve a sentence.

    Sneaky fucker!

  • Surely there has got to be exceptions to that rule.

  • Also, friends facebook pages aren't usually the best sources of information.

    Just had a quick search and they do appear to be at least in some parts correct in that its sentencing guidelines rather than a law preventing it.

  • It is entirely likely that I am wrong here, but, I remember reading a couple of weeks ago that under the Italian judicial system a conviction is not considered final until there has been at least one appeal.

    From the Sky News article:

    In Italy, cases must pass two levels of appeal before the verdicts are final.

  • So there's still a possibility he'll go to jail?

  • If I recall correctly (what I just read on a friends facebook page), Berlusconi passed a law whilst he was in power preventing anyone over 70 years of age being jailed... So he probably won't actually serve a sentence.

    Sneaky fucker!

    This is apparently at the discretion of the judge trying the case.

    So there's still a possibility he'll go to jail?

    Depends on how big the charitable donation that he makes to the judge is really, but it is possible.

  • Kills me every time :-D

  • What do people think of Derren Brown's latest show? Is it real? Some suspicious stuff here:

    http://www.grumpymiddleagedman.co.uk/2012/10/27/derren-browns-apocalypse-fake-is-steve-brosnan-as-actor/

  • Are you telling me that professional liar Derren Brown who mis-directs and deceives for a living didn't really convince someone the zombie apocalypse was upon us?

  • I'm not saying anything of the sort. Just throwing it out there. I watched it this morning and it looked really ropey, but when the heart is pumping and you're disorientated it would be a LOT harder to pick holes in the scenario. Faked or not, it's twisting my melon, which is surely better than the usual mental-chewing gum on TV?

  • I really don't like the fact that this 'experiment' could really fuck up someones mind. I did watch part one, and they (the people that devised this experiment) claimed to pick someone that is 'mentally robust' - this means that the experiment could affect someones mind in some way. Do they really know that the person chosen would not be affected? Unless he is an actor? If the person chosen is affected permanantly there could be a huge lawsuit launched against Derren Brown and co...

  • Golden

    "I don’t think there’s a criminal offence of assaulting an owl with silly string."

    ha... and this - "One of the gang said “Give me your owl,” and adopted a boxing pose."

    Thought they all had kestrels up north anyway.

  • Things have moved on a lot since then, it's all owls and nokia 6210s nowadays.

  • This is terrifying.

    Yes it is, but what it's not is surprising. The choice of language is interesting;

    ...Miller reports that as "the United States' conventional wars are winding down"...

    War has been reduced to a naturally occurring social necessity, not an abstract, political last resort. To say they 'wind down' suggests a gentle ending to an inevitable, evolving and mechanized process. It's a very chilling description, free of humanity or revulsion, but at least they no longer hide their resigned acceptance to war. To make a distinction between 'conventional' war in the age of psychological warfare on this scale makes me think we're not far off nuclear no longer being considered unconventional, and great powers would give as much consideration to irrational atrocities as I would a fag-break.

    This is all the truth of geopolitics. It's nothing new. What's amazing is none of it will have been mentioned in the televised presidential debates, included in a campaign advert or in a speech to activists, as this all lies beyond democratic reasoning. It's economic and political logic, and pure fascism by any other name.

  • What a surprise.... Glitter arrested in connection with Savile investigation.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

  • What a surprise.... Glitter arrested in connection with Savile investigation.

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-20114378

    That was inevitable. I mean every time he got on stage he admitted to being the leader of the gang... Maybe this was the gang he was talking about?

  • Unbelievable read from London Review of Books about the BBC in the 50's and 60's.

    Savile was late to the party :(

  • Pfft, the comments in that article are great. I hope that journalist learns something out of it, like, you know, do some research.

  • How dare they ride two-abreast, it's dangerous.

    It's what? In the Highway Code? Legal? Oh.

  • Really?
    That would be cool, out here in the great white north it's single file unless you're above the law.
    (scofflaws and cops on bikes)

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