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  • Clumsy and lazy talk by police and journalists but were not the 'innocent women' 'innocent' only in the context where the Yorkshire Ripper seeked to murder 'prostitutes' ?

    I'd like to think so but I fear not. I remember reading a book when I was a teenager - so, admittedly, not all that recent - by a pathologist in which he said, quite casually and not at all as a kind of guilty confession, that he felt worse when the murder victim was a respectable woman or girl rather than a prostitute.
    Nowadays he would probably be cautious enough to keep such thoughts to himself but I doubt they have disappeared. There are still underlying prejudices about the worth of victims, be it because of their sexual habits, their race, their gender, their class.

  • A more recent example would be the ipswich murders

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2006/dec/14/suffolkmurders.comment

  • look it up yourself

    The Sun, closely followed by The Daily Mail. Neither of these papers could be described as being high quality and unbaissed......

  • sarcasm recognition fail

  • It is possible to recognise and respond to sarcasm

  • agreed

    your turn

  • .

    Can you do one of those everyday for me?

  • ^ Quite right.

    This is one of my least favourite traits of the press. It places judgement, feeds in to crude stereo-types, provokes the readership, and acts as a qualifier, implying some people are better/more blameless/more worthy of sympathy than others.

    Plus it seems so unfair that no matter how long ago someone did the thing they are alleged to have done and/or how drastically their lives might have changed since then, they will forever be reminded of their past.

    My favourite is when they also include the value of the houses owned by the various people in the story. "Speaking outside his £400,000 townhouse, Mr Cooper said..."

  • The best thing about the surreal DM/Daley Thompson piece is learning the name of the former head of the WADA:

  • uci president pat mcquaid said: "lance armstrong has no place in cycling. He deserves to be forgotten." 
    

    oof

  • after the press got a bit bashed this summer wonder why they aren't still publicising the latest set of expense fiddling on mortgages and 2nd homes by MP's

    wonder if they are now scared of the press.

    we need a telegraph leak of expenses again

  • ^^^ Still the king, though the realm has shifted.

  • Osborne caught in First Class on Virgin Train with only Second Class ticket.

    Refuses to sit amoung the Plebs.
    Asks if he can avoid paying upgrade charge.

    Eventually grudgingly pays £160 to upgrade his ticket

    Gets off at Euston
    Press pack stopped from going onto platform to get photos
    Osborne smuggled out the goods entrance
    The Sun get photos of this anyhow.

    Lols.

    On one hand: WAFC, thinking he can get out of it

    On the other: I've tried to do the exact same thing.

  • one one hand : i've tried skipping a few trains in my time
    on the other hand : i'm not nor was i a millionaire

    WAFC

  • Nor's Osbourne. Not on £134,565 pa.

  • chicken feed

  • Nor's Osbourne. Not on £134,565 pa.

    From Wikipedia, admittedly, but...

    He has an estimated personal fortune of around £4 million, as the beneficiary of a trust fund that owns a 15 per cent stake in Osborne & Little, the wallpaper-and-fabrics company co-founded by his father, Sir Peter Osborne, Bt.[113][114][115]

  • there you go rodney ... milyonaire

  • Ozzy's still touring too so he's got that revenue coming as well

  • ^Needs a fucking potatochop asap.

  • Six Italian scientists jailed for failing to predict 2009 earthquate.

    This is seriously fucked up. I know knack all about earthquake prediction, but always regarded it as being an inexact science at best. How many recent ones have been accurately predicted? Presumably their unfortunate successors will raise the alarm next time there's a minor tremor and end up in prison for causing the ensuing panic.

  • thats a disgrace
    an unexact science at the very best
    you can't second guess mother earth / gaia

  • On one hand: WAFC, thinking he can get out of it

    On the other: I've tried to do the exact same thing.

    Presumably you're not a member of a political party a high profile member of which "slammed London's fare dodgers"

    Nor's Osbourne. Not on £134,565 pa.

    Yes he is, many times over

  • Got my survival refresher in 2 weeks - emailed my boss to say not doing it now - 4th incident in too short a time for me

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-north-east-orkney-shetland-20033833

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