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  • Yes, good news, remarkable that we didn't roll over for the US and let them do what they wanted regardless.

    Maybe this will actually bring some balance to the situation, although that might be a hope too far.

  • did jimmy ever look young ?
    every image of him ever, he looks at least 40

  • It's a win for GM but it's absolutely not a win for May or the Government - nor should it be claimed as such. She was backed into a corner with some careless and politicised comments from Cameron and Clegg before they were in power. She was effectively fucked either way - either at home or abroad. It's a populist decision that buys a moment of favour at home. The GM case is very specific. What about, as NH points out, that of O'Dwyer or Babar Ahmad or Talha Ahsan?

    This is an interesting bit of commentary, written a year ago:
    http://www.lawgazette.co.uk/opinion/joshua-rozenberg/is-so-called-forum-bar-really-panacea-claimed-campaigners

  • (last link just for general reading, not taking as be-all/end-all)

  • ...it's absolutely not a win for May or the Government - nor should it be claimed as such.

    ... It's a populist decision that buys a moment of favour at home.

    ummm... seems like you're contradicting yourself there. In what way is short term appeasement of the masses not every pollutants dream?

  • apologies if this is a repost.. disgusting comments by Alan Johnson on Twitter. A timely reminder that Labour spent 10 yrs trying to deport #McKinnon, and failing to deport #Hamza

    hate to say it but well done Theresa May..

  • Don't know if this was posted elsewhere, but seems appropriate here. Michael Barry calls for restructuring cycling.

    Fewer bare liars like him in the sport will help. WAC.

  • ^WFT is that.

  • Comes up in Iain M. Banks sci fi novels as a religon. With the interesting twist that the simulation will end, just as soon as a certian percentage of sentient beings are aware-of/believe-in 'the truth'.

    Interesting, as it means that both enlightenment, and irradication, of non-believers. Are equally effective ways of increasing said percentage, and completing the simulation.

    Ken Macleod's 'The Restoration Game' is a fun take on it too.

    My biggest gut reaction against the simulation argument is how hard we find it to simulate our universe. Most simulations use heaps of approximations or special cases to make progress. I think it takes a supercomputer to do justice to the full quantum mechanics of just a few hundred atoms. Maybe things get more tractable once we can build quantum computers? Or maybe all the weirdness of quantum mechanics is a symptom of the approximations of the underlying simulation?

  • Ken Macleod's 'The Restoration Game' is a fun take on it too.

    My biggest gut reaction against the simulation argument is how hard we find it to simulate our universe. Most simulations use heaps of approximations or special cases to make progress. I think it takes a supercomputer to do justice to the full quantum mechanics of just a few hundred atoms. Maybe things get more tractable once we can build quantum computers? Or maybe all the weirdness of quantum mechanics is a symptom of the approximations of the underlying simulation?

    Did you take a look at the article? That was the point. They argued that aspects of the physical world (which we cannot explain?) look similar to the types of simplifications one would make in building a simulation.

  • No, but i'm just doing that now, and realise it looks suspiciously like i'm trying to simulate cleverness...

  • Or you're a simulation of the article.

  • no you're ... etc

  • had to be done

  • Doped. Didn't even feel it.

  • Can't believe there's all this talk of sims and no one's mentioned red dwarf, which tackled the subject way before banks or McLeod...

  • Can't believe there's all this talk of sims and no one's mentioned red dwarf, which tackled the subject way before banks or McLeod...
    Philip K. Dick before that.

    He also wrote a book about sleeping cows or something.

  • And Descartes before that.

  • Didn't they make a movie from one of Descartes' books? Something with evilectric demon sheep or something.

  • Don't think blade runner is based on Descartes. The Matrix is a lot closer.

    Blade Runner's shite anyway.

  • What the hell is Blade Runner?

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