Polo Rules

Anyone see snoops push someone (maybe kropa?)off their bike quite blatantly and then claim his elbow was not extended, it was pretty funny.

As soon as you extend your arm past 90 degrees that's meant to be a foul .

I was going to ask about the 90° rule.
Does this basically mean you can use forearms if you push with you body and not extend your arm?
I'd like to see polo as a non contact sport, but I'm an old woman.

I'm pretty sure there'd be contact with 6 cyclists in an old woman.

Haha that's the first Rob-ism in a long time that I've laughed at.

Anyone see snoops push someone (maybe kropa?)off their bike quite blatantly and then claim his elbow was not extended, it was pretty funny.

It was one of your northern mates. Hebden? I rode into him with my arm at 90 degrees (legal), no extension beyond that, IIRCWIMN. I wouldn't do that to Kropa. And I didn't dispute the ref's decision, I just stated, correctly, that it was wrong.

It looked like a push from where I was, you both seemed pretty stationary at the time. You did get on with the game though.

Screenshots or it didn't happen. I remember it being contentious, but hey, the ref made a call which I was pretty happy about even if it was wrong. I like hearing the ref make calls, it's reassuring to know they're watching and sober enough to operate a whistle.

No filming on the chunk court on the Saturday, so I guess it didn't happen. Shame as it made me giggle.

As soon as you extend your arm past 90 degrees that's meant to be a foul (shoving, or holding, etc)... but I've never seen it called.

I saw it get called all the time at the NAs, much to Kremin's anger (amongst others).

It's a common misconception that shoulder or elbow contact is relevant under the rules any more.

Using elbows for contact is not illegal, nor do you have to make contact only shoulder-to-shoulder.

As long as your arm is bent less than 90 degrees, you can make contact as you wish.

What you aren't allowed to do is make contact with another player below on the elbow on their steering arm. And that's the only thing you might be able to call Luca on.

Does this basically mean you can use forearms if you push with you body and not extend your arm?

It looked like a push from where I was, you both seemed pretty stationary at the time. You did get on with the game though.

You are allowed to push, as long as the elbow isn't extended more than 90 degrees (as Snoops states). It is fairly hard to get much force into that motion, if your arm isn't bent more than 90 degrees.

As long as your arm is bent less than 90 degrees, you can make contact as you wish.

You are allowed to push, as long as the elbow isn't extended more than 90 degrees.
Is it more than, or less than? And which side of the angle are we measuring this from?

My understanding is that the angle formed inside the elbow should not be more than 90 degrees, i.e. if you fully extend your arm, the angle is ~180 degrees.
As the arm flexes, and the wrist moves up toward the shoulder, this angle decreases.

Someone made a diagram the last time this ambiguity was raised.

This

Can I post monty python again?

90 degree rule is jokes. Simple checking only, elbow tucked in, end of story.

That seems like a weird rule to me - practically encourages elbowing people. The diagram shows both people are parallel. Turn the left-hand guy a few degrees either way and he's bowling in, elbows-out.

I also wish checking was banned - it causes all sorts of contention and even a theoretically 'safe', parallel, shoulder-to-shoulder check often causes someone to have a fairly rough crash; falling onto/into their opponent's bike or the barriers. It also promotes the 'win by being more of a dick than the next guy' ethos, espoused by loads of already good players who hack the fuck out each other, dolphin slap all over the place, double-d and block block block.

I get that it's hard to write fair rules though, and my beef is as much about subjective style as safety, so all that is irrelevant.

Having to keep your elbow in leaves no way to prevent an opponent on your right from veering left into your bars.

he'd get called for bike on bike contact then? (if I understand your example)

Or you'd get called for T-boning.

90 degree rule is jokes. Simple checking only, elbow tucked in, end of story.

You have to remember, the rules come from a place where some people consider it a great move to put someone over the boards. In fact Kruse checked Kremin at one point so hard that he ended up hanging over the boards. In that situation you need to be able to defend yourself, and I don't think just leaning in cuts it.

Some games at the NAs, especially against midwest players, I spent a lot of time making sure I was at arms length from them.

So the 90 degree rule is to protect against aggressive checking? Make a rule that outlaws aggressive and dangerous checking and enforce it? Sounds dead easy, I know.

The rules come from a place where they have decent sized courts.

So the 90 degree rule is to protect against aggressive checking? Make a rule that outlaws aggressive and dangerous checking and enforce it? Sounds dead easy, I know.

The right to check is taken as seriously as the right to bear arms.

Lol