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NZ are the Arsenal of Rugby, all style and no substance.
lolsville.
They choke more than Arsenal do....
i'm not looking forward to monday morning.
Going to the match on Saturday, is anyone else there?
fucking excited, might pull out the AB jersey for shits and giggles.
Argentina deserved what they got, a shocker of a shit game.
Me and my mate duly got pissed and ate a 20oz steak.
the number of paper planes ( I fly like paper....) showed how bored the crowd was. -
lolsville.
They choke more than Arsenal do....
i'm not looking forward to monday morning.
Going to the match on Saturday, is anyone else there?
fucking excited, might pull out the AB jersey for shits and giggles.
Argentina deserved what they got, a shocker of a shit game.
Me and my mate duly got pissed and ate a 20oz steak.
the number of paper planes ( I fly like paper....) showed how bored the crowd was.they really don't choke that much... a choky team doesn't have a year like 2005
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- As for NZ being all style no substance, you're wrong my friend.
and: - England will lose and lose big if they don't change something fast. The Autumn Internationals should have been the time to build something for the future, not recall a load of has-beens and never-weres..
If they win the world cup at home they'll earn some credit where it's due. The pressure on that team is so immense it doesn't surpise me that most people buckle under it. You can only so often get away with blaming referees for not winning tournaments. Somewhere the buck has to stop.
I fully agree with you on that, the selection policy is disgraceful and beggars believe, it seems very similar to what's happening at the ECB at present. Short term solutions only. When the world cup comes around they'll all be too old again.
- As for NZ being all style no substance, you're wrong my friend.
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/All_Blacks#Overall
"New Zealand have the best winning record against every nation they have played, and have won at least two thirds of their games against every country, with the exception of South Africa. They have won 339 of their 456 matches, a win percentage of 74.4% (see table). By this measure, New Zealand are the most successful international rugby union team ever and one of the most successful teams in world sport."
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Im for the Boks :-)
To bad theyre not playing like they should...
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^Wibble - this seems to have sent you into a frenzy of NZ related research. Sure, at their best they are great, but they alway peak between world cups when everyone else is going through the cycle of rebuilding, and they fuck it up when the main event comes along. Plus they poach players from the Pacific islands, and they whinge like kids when they don't win. The thing that makes them so irritating is that the squad and their fans arrive at every world cup thinking they have a right to take the trophy home, and then proceed to get spanked by the French. Actually it isn't irritating, it's entertaining.
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they really don't choke that much... a choky team doesn't have a year like 2005
Only when it really matters and I think that's the frustrating part. It's a bit like the Netherlands at football, they're the favourites to win the world cup but almost always fail to deliver.
Tri-Nations is hardly a barometer for quality as those teams play each other too often. I'm quite pleased that Argentina will be joining in 2012. -
Only when it really matters and I think that's the frustrating part. It's a bit like the Netherlands at football, they're the favourites to win the world cup but almost always fail to deliver.
Tri-Nations is hardly a barometer for quality as those teams play each other too often. I'm quite pleased that Argentina will be joining in 2012.bulltrue! perhaps perhaps... you know, i think i have a totally different perspective being from aus - i think different tours matter there... so there its like, nz are the shit, they always win etc etc... know what i mean?
international rugby seems bigger here... to me, aus seem to have sent over a kind of shitty clown-version of their team this year
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Don't get me wrong, I love the All Blacks for what they stand for. They play expansive entertaining Rugby. I'm slightly biased as there's some South African heritage in me, but you can't have that much quality and not win a World Cup. That means there's something seriously wrong in the set up. They are not able to grind out results, unlike South Africa, when it really matters.
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bulltrue! perhaps perhaps... you know, i think i have a totally different perspective being from aus - i think different tours matter there... so there its like, nz are the shit, they always win etc etc... know what i mean?
international rugby seems bigger here... to me, aus seem to have sent over a kind of shitty clown-version of their team this year
Do know what you mean I think, from my experience of living in Aus it's only NZ that really matter and to a degree when England come on tours. As for tests being bigger in the North it's mainly because they've been starved from success for so many years and have this massive urge for the old days to come back. But I think they'll have to wait for at least another 6 years as the second string of both SA and NZ are too strong. As for Aus bringing a weak team it seems that waybut at least some of the younger players are getting great experience and exposure.
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^Wibble - this seems to have sent you into a frenzy of NZ related research. Sure, at their best they are great, but they alway peak between world cups when everyone else is going through the cycle of rebuilding, and they fuck it up when the main event comes along. Plus they poach players from the Pacific islands, and they whinge like kids when they don't win. The thing that makes them so irritating is that the squad and their fans arrive at every world cup thinking they have a right to take the trophy home, and then proceed to get spanked by the French. Actually it isn't irritating, it's entertaining.
Mike Catt, Matt Stevens, Stuart Abbott, Riki Flutey, Dylan Hartley to name but a few recent imports to the English international team.. Martin Johnson even played for NZ under 18s!
If the IRB really supported rugby in the Pacific Islands (and other emerging rugby nations) instead of just paying lip service to the idea, some Islanders wouldn't have to justifiably make the trip to NZ in order to earn a wage playing rugby. You can't blame NZ for something that England or any other international country in the same position would do.
Personally, I don't find NZ or their fans any more irritating than the Aussies, SA, Wales or England. The only real difference is that NZ have consistently been the strongest team between world cups and are rightfully considered favourites.
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As for Aus bringing a weak team it seems that waybut at least some of the younger players are getting great experience and exposure.
absolutely, that's what made me think that this tour isn't such a big deal back there. its a good thing, as you say - wil genia 21 years old scrum-half, bloody wicked.. i used to chase him for timesheets when he was a casual landscape labourer only a year or so ago
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This is what its all about
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Wales vs New Zealand November 2008 - Haka and Welsh response Full Length[/ame]Johnson, Wells Ford, Smith and most of all Rob Andrew can fuck off
Bring in Shaun Edwards and Geech.
Monye at 14, Goode on the bench, yet they send Foden bach to Northampton - NO FUCKING CLUE.
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Also, if you're going to stand up to the haka, do it properly:
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Nope, i presume Wales. But i have no idea. Never discussed rugby on here so dont know who supports who.
Who did Argentina play on Saturday at Twickenham? Clue's in the question
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My bad didnt see that
Anyway lets have a reminder of the greatest test match in recent history, perhaps ever? Ronan O'Gara can fuck off though
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That was one of the TOUGHEST tests i have ever seen! Both sides clashed like titans ripping into eachother with passion and heart. It made me so proud and very impressed at the same time.
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VV, I wasn't saying it was a repost, just showing a superior way of standing up to the Haka than the Welsh did last year..
As for RO'G, he was half-knocked out after coming on out of position with no centres right at the end of an intense match. He made two big mistakes but cannot be blamed as the sole reason the Lions lost that match.
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This was a very close second for me.
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the number of paper planes ( I fly like paper....) showed how bored the crowd was.Ha! Right! best part of the game was when the bellend came on the loudspeaker: "Will you please all stop throwing paper planes onto the pitch" which of course only bated the crowd even more
I was sat next to a bunch of posh Jonny Wilkinson obsessed MILFs in the North Stand, clueless but just liked looking at hunky men in tight shorts. When they were all in the pre-match huddle for the teamtalk, one of them said to her mate: "Corrr, what I wouldn't do to be in the middle of that!"
And who says it's only Men with one track minds
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As a Sarries supporter I shall be watching this evening but unfortunately not in the stands.. Might pop up to Watford on Sunday to see us pound Wycombe Wasps though.
As for NZ being all style no substance, you're wrong my friend. Between world cups they've proven to be all style and substance going on ridiculously long unbeaten runs that would give any international team in any sport a run for their money!
Anyway, England will lose and lose big if they don't change something fast. The Autumn Internationals should have been the time to build something for the future, not recall a load of has-beens and never-weres..