Useless degrees

Never mind this philosophy guff. My psychology degree taught me very effective pulling methods - now that's education.

Philosophy and why it wont get you a job:

I have someone working for me who has a PhD in philosophy and taught it for ten years at a very good US university. He is a very bright man with marvellous analytical skills.

I wouldn't knock philosophy. I am rather pleased, however, that neither of my daughters are going to read law.

Sorry that was supposed to be part of the quote.

No need to apologise. My point in response was simply that studying philosophy gives people a very sound education in reasoning; a skill that is very useful and employable.

ah falmouth university that venerable, old educational institution, often spoken in the same breath as oxford, cambridge, yale, harvard.
are you sure it was the degree holding you back and not the place where you did it ?

sounds like you did the degree for all the right reasons too !!

i got a geography degree from some crappy northern college of higher education now working in the city
i guess a degree is just a way of proving you have grey matter between your ears a starting point along the journey of life

Useless decrees from California:

It is a misdemeanor to shoot at any kind of game from a moving vehicle, unless the target is a whale.
In Pacific Grove, "molesting" butterflies can result in a $500 fine.
It is illegal to set a mousetrap without a hunting license.
In Long Beach, it is illegal to curse on a mini-golf course.
It is illegal to cry on the witness stand in Los Angeles courts.

Does Political Philosophy count? BA Hons in Political Science, MSc in Political Theory. Fuck work though. Keep studying.

BMus classical music from GSMD (No honors classification as i was a fucking fucktard and cunted my course right up by being a loser and a twat).

Aaahhh regrets :-/

BMus classical music from GSMD (No honors classification as i was a fucking fucktard and cunted my course right up by being a loser and a twat).

...as I explained to my parents...

Maybe but it did mean 6 hours of lectures and tutorials a week. :)

6 fucking hours....? I do over 20 a week :( and that doesn't include 4 days a week up until at least midnight doing coursework.

I did used to spend most of my days reading in the Central Library in Manchester. Honest.

It was a bit of a shock to the system when I started my IT course, 30-odd hours of lectures a week and shedloads of coursework.

6 fucking hours....? I do over 20 a week :( and that doesn't include 4 days a week up until at least midnight doing coursework.

Depends on what you study and how it's taught thought, right? I also had about 6 hours a week, only two of which were compulsory. But then I did have 6 books per week which I* had* to read, so if you count those hours...

Maybe but it did mean 6 hours of lectures and tutorials a week. :)

That's outrageous! Surely you mean per month?!?

(I did English Lit by the way - not the most demanding of timetables! I enjoyed it but it has had no impact on my working life at any point...)

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Ok, who got a first then?

Ok, who got a first then?

Me. I've already said.^

does a doctor of philosophy count?

Ok, who got a first then?

Not I. Whilst I did spend most days in the central library in Manchester, I also spent most nights in the pubs and clubs of Manchester. Happy days.

It meant I got a 2:1. My friend categorised degrees thus;

First: total swot
2:2: drinker
2:1: couldn't make up your mind on being a swot or a drinker
Third: thick

That said, do you want a job?

Yes please, I got a Desmond in Graphic Design and have no desire to be a graphic designer any more, would like to do something creative but unfortunately I'm not in a financial situation that would allow me to do an internship. Have been managing a bar for the last year but that's wearing thin now. Bit of an awkward situation, I want to do something creative that's not graphics and doesn't need for me to do an internship. Not sure what the next move should be.
All of that aside I don't think there is such a thing as a useless degree as there are quite a people that are doing jobs that are completely unrelated to their degree. You've just got to have a drive for something and take it but as stated I don't know what that 'something' is, yet.
Ramble over

Ok, who got a first then?

First at what?

First at what?

It's academic, mate. You wouldn't understand.
;-/

I've got a degree..

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If you want a good place to start using the ignore function I would refer you to the above.

A degree won't get you a job. However, it may give you something to talk about in an interview. You'll get you the job. and yes, you'll probably have to start on the lowest rung.

My degree was in International Politics and Intelligence Studies. I did it because it was really interesting. It was a fantastic start for my imagined career in the diplomatic service, followed by a life as a dashing secret agent. Oh well, my then undiagnosed dyspraxia put paid to that as I sat the fast stream entrance exam and after a while realised I was about to get the lowest mark in the history of the world, walked out and went to the pub. Best decision I ever made.

I then entered the field of computers, relying on a BTEC done years before and a certain amount of bare faced lies to blag my way into a nightmarish and really poorly paid job as a phone support monkey. while I was there I did the company's website, and in my spare time a few others, and then got a job paying lots more as a programmer. I spent that time becoming the best front-end web developer I could be, and seven years down the line and going nowhere fast in that job I got my current one, which I absolutely love and get nicely remunerated for.

The thing is, it was my politics degree which got me from a starting point of nowhere to doing what I love for a great employer, and that's because it is essentially a degree in arguing. If you can argue well, even if your position is complete bullshit, you'll get a good politics degree, and more than that, you'll get the job you want too. A non vocational degree is a good thing - it makes you a much more rounded candidate than, say a computer science graduate trying to get a programmer's job. It gives you another way of thinking, of looking at a problem, of interacting with people, that the vocational one may not.

Oh Pythagoras,
you bastard,
see what you've started.

Also Blue, what is your current occupation?