Nicked bike story

in response to cliveo

exactly, it's simply a case of upping the interest of the police, bicycle thiefs are pretty low priority, rival vigilante forces replacing them come quite high up the list.

You don't actually have to kick off, you just need to persuade the police that you might, and hey presto they should turn up.

THE tipping point came in 1999 with the case of Tony Martin, a Norfolk farmer. He had suffered persistent trouble with intruders at his isolated farmhouse and when two men broke in again, he was waiting with a gun.
Martin shot and killed Fred Barras, one of the intruders, as the young man was running away. He was convicted of murder, but the charge was reduced to manslaughter on appeal. An outcry ensued. Many were outraged at Martin’s conviction, believing that it undermined a person’s right to defend their home and family.
In 2002 Barry Hastings, 25, was jailed for five years for stabbing a man when he returned home and found his front door had been forced open. Hastings grabbed a kitchen knife but tackled the burglar outside his house when, the judge concluded, the immediate danger was past. Hastings stabbed the burglar 12 times.

these are very extreme but excessive force is only allowed when life is threatened, if you thought your life may have een threatened you wouldn have gone in the first place

Yup, I was just about to edit my post with the fact that one died. Thanks andy :-)

in response to cliveo

exactly, it's simply a case of upping the interest of the police, bicycle thiefs are pretty low priority, rival vigilante forces replacing them come quite high up the list.

You don't actually have to kick off, you just need to persuade the police that you might, and hey presto they should turn up.

it could work.

cyclist scum: hello mr pig, my bike was stolen and I've found the man who stole it.
PC Scratchings: oh sorry, we can't be bothered to care about that.
cyclist scum: well in that case, I might take the law into my own hands and do him in, proper like.
PC Scratchings: AH! but if you do that we'll do YOU for doing it.
cyclist scum: but how? you said you weren't coming..

there we have it, the pigs will turn up if you convince them it MIGHT kick off

well then, you smack him without telling the police first.

kind of a sensible precaution before committing a crime, I'd say

Also best to ensure that there is no evidence whatsoever to link you to the crime.

Actually, best not to commit a crime.

Also best to ensure that there is no evidence whatsoever to link you to the crime.

Actually, best not to commit a crime.

that's why only stupid criminals get caught.

no what i'm saying is, ultimately if you go up to him and kick the shit out of him, he'll argue that you made the first move and he defended himself, leavig you in a reverse situation of being the criminal, he'll just say he did not knick it, bought it from a stranger or something, didnt know it was stolen....whatever the excuse and your left with an assault charge, whether he stole your bike or not, vigilante action wont solve anything!!!

Bollocks. Name one time this has happened.

This happens quite alot. Some theif even siued when he fell through a skylight while trying to burgle a house. The cunt won!

having said that, thats my girlfriends point of view as she is a solicitor.....i would be up for the method of group intimidation without the fuss!!

it' scool you got your bike back. if you were at the rapha sale then i don't imagine a 100 notes is that big a deal ;)

hahaha. Sorry ehem. composed....

You could get Rapha to make you Guardian angel style uniforms. I suggest black and stealth bikes.
Just like this but with pedals.

Well done on getting your bike back, sucks that you got hit in the wallet.

no what i'm saying is, ultimately if you go up to him and kick the shit out of him, he'll argue that you made the first move and he defended himself, leavig you in a reverse situation of being the criminal, he'll just say he did not knick it, bought it from a stranger or something, didnt know it was stolen....whatever the excuse and your left with an assault charge, whether he stole your bike or not, vigilante action wont solve anything!!!

like he'll go to the police.

lets face it, hundreds of people get assaulted every day and the police do fuck all about those.

I call urban myth on that one. Or, rather, I call a complex legal argument about an often misquoted incident in a completely different country.

In the fucking 80's.

It happened a couple of years back.

hey dude like i said thats not really my view but i was speaking to my bird about this earlier and she comes accross things like this all the time quite regularly as well (apparently she said 'its more common then you would think', i couldnt really give a shit i'm glad the geezers got his bike back lol

Question is though if those guys stealing from Tony Martin were stealing his colnago track bike should he be allowed to use his shotgun?

lol

Northerndave, thanks for posting your story - although I suspect you may regret it now.
I don't agree with what you did but can understand your desperation and frustration after the police refused to get involved.

So now you've paid off the thief, what next?
Let him do the same again, maybe to someone else on this forum?
You have his description, presumably his phone number, maybe a name and rough idea of his address.
We already know the rough area where this cnut operates.
So why don't you share with us what you know about him so he doesn't do the same to us?
And while you're about it, please also tell us how your bike was locked up so we know how sophisticated this turd is.

Similar thing happened to me earlier this year. Bike was stolen in Soho but popped up on Gumtree with a Shoreditch address. The Police at the City Road copshop did absolutely nothing to help me in spite of me having the name, mobile number and address of the thief/fencer and an agreed time and address to meet the little cunt! I was almost begging them to send a plain clothes officer out with me, but they were having none of it. I told them that I was going up there with some mates to sort it myself and all they could say was "...we strongly advise against that Sir".

Anyway, I rocked over there with two mates and almost got the bike away from them. Unfortuantely there were about 15 of the little fuckers complete ringfencing that part of the estate. We'd completely underestimated the situation - I thought it might be just two guys at most - so it was just a fucked situation we couldn't control and I was probably lucky not to get stabbed.

To add insult to injury I received a customer service call from the police a few days later, asking me to rate how I thought they'd handled my bike theft experience...

hey northern dave,

i think you should take this up with the police complaints authority / your mp / your local councillor.

why are we paying the police then having to pay the criminals as well ?

it is terrible !

it truly is a fucking disgrace the way the police act, the people who prioritise what they focus on (the government) really couldn't give a monkeys about low level crime. Instead the police spend all their time harassing protesters etc as they give the government shit.

the last arms fair protests I was involved in had £4.5 million spent on police over 3 days! £4.5 fucking million. With a budget like that they could pretty much instantly clean up all bicycle crime in the city and actually make a difference to peoples lives instead of just protecting some surplus cunts who sell weapons to corrupt regimes.

completely agree with that one

There is the story - probably a joke - about a man who phones the police saying his house is being burgled. The police say that they are sorry but they haven't the resources to come out. He calls back a little later to say "It's OK, I've caught the burglar and am sorting him out now. Not to bother about coming out, you might not like what you see." The police arrive two minutes later.

Actually you almost got it right, after calling the police, he put the phone down for two minutes, and then call them back saying "oh don't worry, I shot the bulgar", 5 minutes later arm respond came, found a very surprised bulgar in the shed and arrested him.

police cant call the guy up and meet him, thats entrapment...
and they cant do that in this country, they cant really do anything without permission which involves evidence and paperwork, so yea they are really really shit but they cant do anything because if they did a good lawyer would mean the criminal would get away with things. good thing u got your bike back too

i would have fucked up the guy though....

Yeah, calm down everyone.

There's no way he should have paid to get his bike back and he could have done it differently and still got it back, but the point is he did get it back.

The problem with saying that this teaches kids that crimes pays is that they already know it pays.

The real issue here is that the cops didn't give a shit.

And that sums it up quite neatly. If your man had had the backing of the police then it wouldn't have panned out the way it did.

To the would be Rambo's...it's all very getting gung-ho about it on an internet forum...Innit.

And that sums it up quite neatly. If your man had had the backing of the police then it wouldn't have panned out the way it did.

To the would be Rambo's...it's all very getting gung-ho about it on an internet forum...Innit.

'well'
You dropped this. ^