On-One / Planet X bikes and components

Loads of the ride quality of tubular tyres is from the latex inner tube. Quality clincher tyres and Michelin latex inner tubes get you about 80% of the way there. With new wider rim profiles probably even more so.

already running the latex :)

Only negatives are - they lose pressure quicker, and seem to have a tendency to pinch flat a bit easier on installation.

dubtap, what were those nice gumwall tyres you had on you rs80's? I asked you on the way back from BDW's, but totally forgotten now.

Veloflex + latex inners, like cycling on a silk blanket.

The gumwalls were the £20 Challenge Criteriums from PX that have now gone back up to £30 each unfortunately. I bought six ;)

The gumwalls were the £20 Challenge Criteriums from PX that have now gone back up to £30 each unfortunately. I bought six ;)

Dibs :)

Anyway - apparently they'll have carbon clinchers in stock in 6-8 weeks (fingers crossed without the logos!)

I've gone up to 110 PSI on my carbon clinchers, and that is definitly as far as I'd feel comfortable going. Because of my heavy bones, I PUT A 25mm on the back to keep my ideal PSI below 110.

You can pump tubs up to as much as the tyre allows, without worry.

Use a tyre pressure calculator to see if you can inflate, your preferred tyre size for the rear, to its optimum pressure, without a BANG!. Before ordering carbon clinchers.

Merino jerseys for 19.99. I've just ordered one.....or maybe two....impatience and a shite 'thin client' connection can do that.

You must be on the same mailing list. I got one of the On One tops last week and am very pleased with it. They have some amazing weekly offers at the moment

As long as I can run tyres at 100 or above I'm happy. Anything above 110 is like riding a solid strip of rubber

This one looks a bit thinner, so will be easier for me to layer. Paypal says a paid twice, so I've ordered 2, which is fine as long as they dont plonk them into the same box, and push me over the customs limit.

As long as I can run tyres at 100 or above I'm happy. Anything above 110 is like riding a solid strip of rubber

I should run 95 PSI front and 117 PSI rear (23mm tyres). I have no evidence that this would kill my rims, in the face, with fire. But neither do I wish to investigate this. A 25mm rear bring down the recommended PSI to 99.

If you dont need to go over say (unfounded guess) 105 PSI. Then just get the clinchers.

http://www.dorkypantsr.us/bike-tire-pressure-calculator.html

by those calculations I probably do need tubs if I want to run 23 or lower at my 'optimal pressure' (though interesting to see that Michelin comes out different to the other calculator) - but to be honest, I've been riding without them for a long time and never had any problems. Interesting to know though...

Thinking of just fucking the stupid carbon wheels off anyway - getting Scherrit to build me some lovely 'classics' wheels with Hope/Royce hubs 32 or 36 hole DT rims that will be stiff and bombproof. Sounds much more sensible.

And heavy, very very heavy.

not necessarily... you can get 28/32 hole hand builds for around 1670 - which isn't significantly heavier than say Ksyrium elites and about the same as Equpies ... and they'll be stiff and strong for the Surrey potholes - not to mention the fact that I seem to be able to get most 24h lightweight rear wheels to move around and rub the pads (it's my awesome power you see).

....and I didn't say they were going to be my ONLY pair of wheels :) just until I can afford the carbon clinchers I want rather than the cheapest ones I can get.

edit - you can build: DT 465's rims + 240 hubs + spokes/nipples = 1539g
or DT415 + 340 hubs + spokes/nipples = 1555g

both those are 28/32 wheelsets

useful weight info at wheelsmith

I was using this: http://www.wheelbuilder.com/store/wheel-weight-calculator.html

useful weight info at wheelsmith

That list scares me slightly, my rims are ~320g each/640g pair, and the closest rims on that list to them would be the Gigantex ultralight 50mm, which are 725g/pair.

I'm well under the 85kg lowest rider limit though, which is something I suppose.

what's scary about it? The fact that your wheels are so light? What did they end up weighing?

Well, no- more the concern that they might be too light, as I had always assumed that they were Gigantex variants.

oh. Awkward. Have you ridden them hard yet?

Sorry- forgot to add, without cassette or skewers, 1,180g, with cassette, skewers and tyres 1,940g.

I've only ridden them around the park so far- used the training wheels for a ride out Sunday before last as I had no spare tub (that's now rectified).

1180 without?! Whoah.

404's are 1278g wheels only - ride very carefully on those things

not necessarily... you can get 28/32 hole hand builds for around 1670 - which isn't significantly heavier than say Ksyrium elites and about the same as Equpies ... and they'll be stiff and strong for the Surrey potholes - not to mention the fact that I seem to be able to get most 24h lightweight rear wheels to move around and rub the pads (it's my awesome power you see).

My wheels are based on the build below. The 24 hole rear has a classic 16 spoke 3x drive side which my rugy front row forward legs have yet to flex. From a builders point of view, both sides of the wheel have equal(ish) tension, which rocks. All the convenience of alloy clinchers, in a semi aero 1280g package.

http://forums.roadbikereview.com/wheels-tires/1280g-aero-clinchers-not-carbon-83250.html

I would'nt go with Ti spokes personally, and tuning the hubs sounds tricky.But with the parts I used, but with kinlin not carbon rims. You could have a rocking yet easy to live with wheelset.

Let me know if youwant more info, when I'm sober tomorrow ;)

1180 without?! Whoah.

404's are 1278g wheels only - ride very carefully on those things

Tubs or clinchers?

EDIT\ 1,237 per pair for tubs according to WW.

Looks like I should be careful then!

samllfury - Can you remember what nipples you used?