Which Saddle?

the ones for your pelvic floor you big girls blouse!

I don't know what that means James

Fizik Airone for me, I've been using them only for the past 8 years and been more comfortable than any other saddle I have used. Good for long stints in saddle.

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SLR for the sexy people.

leg raises, bridge positions, plank, side plank

I prefer Blackjack and Roulette but, whatever.

leg over, primary position, scoble-lean, spank and side boob.

BTW, when I said 'curved' in relation to the Flite, I meant over the top longitudinally, i.e. if you eyeball it from the nose, you can see the whole thing slopes away from the top on each side, rather than being a flat platform that then falls off abruptly at the edges. Not talking about relative hammockyness.

Thats how I read it.

Interestingly on a road bike Ilike the flat shape of an SLR, on a commuter/MTB where I sit more upright, and move around more I like a curved perch like the Gobi.

I lied, was'nt interesting in the slightest.

You're right though.

The arione is as close as I've found to my ideal saddle for road riding, but the Gobi is much better for slower and less flat-backed riding (on or off road). I like that the gobi can take a few knocks too.

The fizik tundra was pretty comfy too but mine creaked like a creaky thing.

I use the tundra off road it is the same as the arione but just without the tail which people found got caught on Baggie shorts when descending.

Well there is a gazillion pages trying to sell me stuff if I Google lower back stretches.

I had to lower the noses of all my saddles by a few degrees after 6 months of rigorous stretching. I only do maintenance stretching now, which isn't very rigorous. I squat too, but not for cycling; more as an antidote to cycling.

I'm quite happy on the Brooks B17 on the Brompton, but I wouldn't use it on any of my real bikes. I'm cut from the same cloth as hippy when it comes to road riding. I was just an offcut, obviously.

apologies if covered before but...is it worth going for the fizik arione over the planet x copy. One costs £20 while the other's around £80.

I was wondering the same thing actually.

For me yes. I thought I'd try the px to see if I liked the shape – then buy the fizik. The shape is very similar but the support of the fizik is much better. My planet x saddle had just a small amount of sag in the middle which was not good. The fizik only flexes under your thighs.

Also had this dilemma recently, but picked up a brand new Arione on ebay for 50quid. The price difference at that point gets you a much better quality saddle. They're bloody comfy but took a lot of adjusting to find the sweet spot

^I'm trying out an Arione atm. Any tips of fore-aft adjustment? I'm using the same saddle tip - handlebar measurement as my old saddle (Romin), as I read somewhere on the net that the Arione's extra length is 'all in the tale' and the nose to sit bone position is the same as 'standard road saddles'. I've also lowered seat post by 5mm as the Arione has a greater stack height. Does that sound right?

Devils work the airone.

^^ shrugs

All I know was it took a shitload of minute tilt adjustments to get it to not dig excruciatingly into No Man's Land. Comfy once I got it right though

Also just got a Supercorsa and really surprised how comfy it is, I assumed because it was quite a similar shape to the Kashimax I had that it would feel equally like sitting on an axe, but it feels completely different

Not sure whether to be chuffed or gutted. I've been 'happy' with Romins and have them on all my bikes. I say happy, because they brought a comfort greater than I'd ever found before and I could finish a 7 hour ride without numbness. But although there wasn't numbess, things weren't entirely right down there.

Which is why I ended up eying up the SLR Superflow. Finally found one cheap on BR and although I haven't yet tried it on the road, after some turbo time, I'm sold. As good as the Romin was on the road, 15 minutes on rollers and to a lesser extent the turbo, I would be completely numb. With the Superflow, I can do a two hour turbo session and have literally no ill effects whatsoever to my gooch! Can't wait until Sunday when I'll be able to give it a proper road test.

Trouble is they're stupidly expensive and the one I got is the only time I've ever seen one come up second hand, and I now need another black one and a couple of white ones. Still...what's money when it comes to the well being of your man-parts?

Bah, I really want to try one of those but £££.

I got one in perfect, as new condition for £85. Still daft money for a 2nd hand saddle, but so worth it.

I do think it takes the piss though. I reckon they know that a guy with saddle problems is going to pay way over the odds if it means removing the risk of damaging the crown jewels, so they try it on. There is nothing about these saddles to justify why they're so much more expensive than the rest of the range (for standard non-fancy-all-carbon jobbies). Same with SMP. If you're considering one, then they already know they have you over the barrel so can screw you.

No, exactly. No reason not to do a cheaper version with steel rails or whatever.

Like this:

http://www.bike-discount.de/shop/k1167/a63286/max-slr-gel-flow.html

But with the big cutout. Ok, I guess it's harder to make the shell the same stiffness with the larger cutout, but like you say, it's probably just taking advantage of the market.