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• #827
Pee in your gloves if you are that worried.
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• #828
Heart pumping faster, more blood, warmer blood from increased body heat.
Warmer blood = fever.
The blood is the same temp unless youre ill. The only thing you can do is promote its flow to hands and feet. You can niether make it warmer to start with or warm it at the extremities.
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• #829
If your vital organs are warm enough, then your body will let warm blood go out to the extremities. Otherwise it will hold that warm blood in the core, leaving your fingers, toes and nose cold
Should be easy to dress to keep your core warm though. One thing often over looked is insulating the path to the extremities. By wearing decent leggings, and arm warmers.
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• #830
If your vital organs are warm enough, then your body will let warm blood go out to the extremities. Otherwise it will hold that warm blood in the core, leaving your fingers, toes and nose cold
I got castrated for saying that.
Its a shite situation if you look at it. The only answer is not to let these extremetie lose heat to start with.
And that too, ho hum.
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• #831
Thats just the way the human body is though. The extremes get colder quicker, as they are further from the core. Plus they dont generate so much heat. So its double trouble.
On a bike your feet and hands are right in the path of the cold air, youre pushing yourself through. Probably both attached to metal heat sinks. Neither being used much to promote circulation.
Its a shite situation if you look at it. The only answer is not to let these extremetie lose heat to start with.
Yep, pretty much hit the nail in the head here.
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• #832
Fair SF, I stand corrected. However from experience I have found when doing efforts my hands are always warm, but if just riding they may get cold.
Dammit, guess my hands are made of sterner stuff than yours!
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• #833
merino glove liners under windproof gloves. also this is for the shoes thread but I am too lazy to click... I keep telling people about this and they look at me like I'm a bit simple but it works far better for me than £200 winter Sidis ever did and is a fuckton cheaper, so:
shoes on radiator half an hour before you leave
neoprene overshoes on shoes immediately after you put them on
=toasty warm feet for longerHurrah for science!
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• #834
Fair SF, I stand corrected. However from experience I have found when doing efforts my hands are always warm, but if just riding they may get cold.
I ran in thin running gloves last night. It was -7C according to my phone, probably more like -9C at the frozen lake I ran around. My hands were fine. So you have a point. My circulation from the exercise kept them warm.
Cycling causes a lot more heat lose at the extremities though, and your body just isnt set-up to prioritise protecting them.
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• #835
The best advice I've ever read for warm feet is walk.
Basically any hills that you climb slowly anyway. Get off the bike and walk a bit. I've havent really tried the radiator idea. But ti do put my running/cycling shoes on well in advance of heading out. So as to prelaod the shoes with warmth.
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• #836
shoes on radiator half an hour before you leave
neoprene overshoes on shoes immediately after you put them on
=toasty warm feet for longerHurrah for science!
Don't forget covering the vents with duct tape;
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• #837
I've tried the shoes on radiator thing, works for ~half an hour.
But then I suspect that my circulation must be pony.
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• #838
As tricity says, neoprene overshoes will keep your feet warm easy. Although I find mine irritating to put on, so purchased some cheapo dhb toe warmers. Work perfectly and very easy to slip on.
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• #839
Will try that trick, got Endura MT500 which for some reason got comment on for poor quality.
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• #840
What shoe warmers are people using to sucess? My dhb neoprone & goretex overshoes comined don't do the trick.
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• #841
The one that make people look at you as if you're a bit simple.
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• #842
Thick merino socks are an important part of the equation. Then any shoe + neoprene overshoe combo.
After that you're somewhat screwed.
I have a meter high drum of aerogel in the lab. Must be something I can do with it?????
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• #843
Be 2 metres tall, briefly?
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• #844
Yeah alongside my heated overshoes I also do merino socks and two pairs of M&S 100 denier tights. Toasty.
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• #845
Does anyone know where I can buy heated gloves from in London's famous London today? Very painful fingers this morning and can't wait to order things from the internets.
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• #846
Be 2 metres tall, briefly?
I'll have you know exactly the same height, as the great Napoleon.
I was thinking of making my own pogies filled with aero-gel. Using an old water repelent winter jacket for outer material, and an old microfiber fleece as a liner. Its fecking hydroscopic though. I lost a thickish layer of skin playing with it (clever chemist, furry).
My next plan was to seal some in a 1 inch square of plastic, and place that over my cleat fitting. Except thats not possible with NW shoes.
We have 2mm diameter flakes.
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• #847
Does anyone know where I can buy heated gloves from in London's famous London today? Very painful fingers this morning and can't wait to order things from the internets.
Alpenheat is the most resonably priced brand. I can only see it on OutdoorGB though.My brother-in-law found some £600 Black diamond heated gloves, mistakenly placed in a clearance bin marked BD gloves £35 to clear. The guy at the desk said he'd honour it, and that he should run away very quickly. They even have a little display to adjust the temp to nearest deg.
/CSB
ED: anywhere near a snow+rock?
http://www.snowandrock.com/snowlife-men's-heat-lion-gore-tex-glove/ski-gloves/ski-snowboard-outdoor-sports/fcp-product/31425 -
• #848
Those gloves look amazing, but ££££... Perhaps I'll go in with a felt tip and change the price on the tag and see if I can get away with it.
I might wrap my hands in cling film before putting on liners + massive winter gloves. If plastic bags work for feet then it's got to be worth a try, right?
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• #849
Thats what they cost though.
The ALpenheat cost 210 from OutdoorGB.
I've invested over £100 in my pogies, and they probably dont have as many uses.
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• #850
I think she meant those £15-30 battery pack one.
Thats just the way the human body is though. The extremes get colder quicker, as they are further from the core. Plus they dont generate so much heat. So its double trouble.
On a bike your feet and hands are right in the path of the cold air, youre pushing yourself through. Probably both attached to metal heat sinks. Neither being used much to promote circulation.
Its a shite situation if you look at it. The only answer is not to let these extremetie lose heat to start with.