London Bike Polo League

the only way i can show this to its full potential...is through the medium of phun...

BAD's goals against is wrong. SB's goals for is wrong.

last night's result was:

5-4 5-0 5-3.

Which makes ZRMY top. Not BAD. Sorry Hops.

hah. sneaky

BAD haven't played us yet Bill!

phun...

FAIL! goal difference mark...come on if youre gonna do it!

K. Ray-tard is moaning. He wants the table to be organized by goal difference (a la football) instead of goals and goals against (a la hockey).

If we do use goal difference, it means Ray's team will jump in the standings because of the walk they got from the Moving Targets. Their goal difference is out of whack (because they got 15 goals, and non against for that match), giving them an advantage which will carry through the season (unless every team gets a walk from the MTs - which is impossible since one team already played them).

If we use goals for and against, it reflects the actual points scored first, and then relies on goals against second (the area where walks offer advantages).

What do people want to do?

I thought they weren't awarded any goals, just the 3 points?

its just that i looked at the standings and was working out the goal difference, its what im used to. TBF i dont really mind... its only the second round of games.

I thought they weren't awarded any goals, just the 3 points?
Nope, independent decision yesterday said the rule is thus;

If a team fails to show up.
The team who turned up gets 3 points and 15 goals.
The team who didn't gets -1 point and -5 goals.

Not sure I understand, but points are always the first decider (3 points) then goal difference I guess (+3). Oh I see, which puts them above De Beauvoir because they have a (-4) GD. Stick with goals for and against. I'm sure it won't make too much difference by the end of the season.

Nope, independent decision yesterday said the rule is thus;

If a team fails to show up.
The team who turned up gets 3 points and 15 goals.
The team who didn't gets -1 point and -5 goals.

thats bollocks...who decided that?

I don't care either way. Goal Difference or goals/goals against!

We're talking about the difference between sixth and seventh place after the second round of fixtures.

Tom. Suggested
Mike Agreed.

What's your issue with it?

there were NO goals score meaning NO goals should be awarded.

If people want, we can get rid of the 15 pints NS were awarded (as well as the -5 MT were given), and use GD (after points). That'd result in a fair standing because GD is a ratio, and in that case, would be accurate (in line with reality).

I also agree that its bollocks.

My issue is that rules are just been suggested by people mid-season and just because one person thinks it, it should carry? Hardly an 'independent decision' either!

It was stated at the start of the season, that 3 points be awarded.

;353839']My opinion is MT forfeited. It was supposed to be a second fixture game right? And we're on the 3rd now.
NS + 3 league points, MT - 1 league point. No goal points awarded due to no goals being made. And the goal points are just a sidenote anyways, what matters is the league points. (and sticking to some sort of resemblence of the League guidlines.)

That's my opinion. But really it's up to everybody to decide.

Mike if its ok with everybody else...We've decided to take the points. I will make the changes to the this weeks fixtures thread.

Shins.
No Sympathy

Being logical about this, if you get three points, you must have got 15 goals. I think that the goals have to be awarded for any potential tie-break situations, be it season's goals or goal difference.

The question is really about how many goals the forfeiting team should be awarded. I say that it should represent a worse case scenario, which would be nil. However, given that they get -1 point, I'm also inclined to say they should receive -5 goals.

As to which I think is right, I'm not too sure about. I'm leaning towards the -5 goals for consistency.

;354694']I can't personally think of a substantial argument against that.

this is the posts trail... what do people think?

The only sensible way to decide it is throw it to a vote as there's conflicting opinions all over the place.

what should be voted on? (Because what you're awrded will affect the way standings are organized)

Make sure its a vote from all players in the league - not just the players on this forum. Its hard for moving targets to defend themselves.

what should be voted on?(
Whether or not goals are awarded for a walk through.

OR the really fair way is that we fuck off the deadlines for the whole league and play MT at a later date...sorted by MT and NS. IMO... id rather do this... but cos of paris/next weeks fixture it may have to be a while a way, if no one minds!

Shins.

ps. like hops previously, we have gone out of our way to contact them... we actually organised a game (not on forum) showed up at said time and place which we organised... and they texted a rain check. fair?