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fair and entertaining argument from Sargent and Co. The offer is on the table, take or leave (and there will be takers). Is it right? Not really, but that is the world we live in sonny. Man up UK or please do feel free to fuck off.

Man up UK or please do feel free to fuck off.

Where to? Greece?

fair and entertaining argument from Sargent and Co. The offer is on the table, take or leave (and there will be takers). Is it right? Not really, but that is the world we live in sonny. Man up UK or please do feel free to fuck off.

man up uk ? or fuck off ? is this the voice of patriots who speak the english language or right wingers or tory independents who cant spell ?

i think ill man up later after i been pushed off the white cliffs of dover by nick griffin

Perhaps I didn't convey the Littlejohn-esque overtones enough with my original post there. Must work on my ironic delivery...

yeah telling people they should bail their own country if they dont like it does have rather a facist tone to it . nevermind we should better shut up or there will be a bunch of fixed wheel skins at the door . cripes ........

My point was that it is chicken and egg - those that apply to take a role like that justify the next employer using it as proof that it is the way things are, which creates the conditions for someone looking for work having to accept less and less for more responsibility.

Man up UK or please do feel free to fuck off.

Where to? Greece?

He's the one that they want.

Knowing Rob (Sargent), I suspect any worries about him trying to take advantage of an 'employee' are rather premature. He's a great guy and very easy-going, and it is perhaps for reasons of preferring informality that he goes for this approach. Am I right, Rob?

Clearly, this wouldn't suit everyone. Some people prefer straightforward traditional employment, but I can imagine that there may be someone who may look for just such an arrangement, e.g. the many people looking for workshop space to realise their cycling project.

That said, I don't know much about the bike trade, so ignore me if that's nonsense. I can confirm, though, that you're not dealing with some faceless corporate monster, but a man who is extremely passionate and genuine about classic steel frames, and if you're as much of a fan as he is, I can't see why you wouldn't get on with him.

+1

Rob Sargent's a lovely fella and his shop is awesome, it's a little jewel tucked away in the back streets of north London... I really doubt that he's out to fleece some poor lil' bike mechanic... People do like to get on their soap boxes/high horses and jump to stupid conclusions tho'...

+1 Oliver. Its a great shop. Every time I walk in to Sargent & Co I don't want to leave. Its like Narnia in there. Anyone interested in steel racing frames would have an eye banquet.

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Knowing Rob (Sargent), I suspect any worries about him trying to take advantage of an 'employee' are rather premature. He's a great guy and very easy-going, and it is perhaps for reasons of preferring informality that he goes for this approach. Am I right, Rob?

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He's a top geez. Best bike shop in London as far as I'm concerned.

nobody said he wasnt , just questioned employment laws in general , sorry to mr sargent !

nobody said he wasnt , just questioned employment laws in general , sorry to mr sargent !

I don't get the problem. It's just the same as a hairdresser, personal trainer etc. Work onsite, self employed, work within guidelines and charge customers direct.
There are no employment laws issues as you're not employed by Sargent, if you don't want to follow the shop guidelines then you work somewhere else.

Completely unrelated to cycling, and a long shot...

I'm currently recruiting for a senior Econometrician in a Media Agency, salary up to £40k dependent on experience.

no idea what that is, but i saw the word media. i assume this is something to do with new media, in which case i'm sure i can do it

yea, i have a computer, and a TV. so i am 100% sure i can do it too!

This is perfect for me, as I know how to spell 'econometrician'.

i have an apple laptop ∴ extra qualified

Surely that disqualifies you, as it means that you're a wacky creative and not a hard-nosed number cruncher? :)

doesn't all new media require extensive ownership of apple products?

No, that's post-media.

post modern media? or post-steve jobs media

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Advertising agency: "I have a vision of a bunch of cool kids in tight trousers on a boat using the product and laughing"

Branding agency: "Brand guidelines dictate that logo has to take up half of that space"

Production agency "If we all go to Cuba/Spain/Stockport, there's an amazing beach/mountain/cobbled street we can shoot this on it'll only cost £500K"

New Media Agency: "I can get this to the top of the google search rankings"

Social media agency: "I'll send freebies to 200 bloggers and we'll get some retweets out of it"