Skidding: difference between track and road frame

I was lost until I saw the diagram, now it all makes perfect sense! :)

No one has mentioned the compound of the tyre or the road surface - both factors that would impact skid far more than 1 degree of head tube angle or 1 inch of top tube length. At the end of your day just decide you are going to do it, and do it.

Anyway, how's Bristol pj? I miss you too, old vinegar tits... ;p

No one has mentioned the compound of the tyre or the road surface - both factors that would impact skid far more than 1 degree of head tube angle or 1 inch of top tube length. At the end of your day just decide you are going to do it, and do it.

+1 slick Schwalbe Ultremo grip way more than treaded Rubino Pro and them non-skid surfaces laid in front of most junctions in town do what they say on the tin.

I imagine it's something far simpler - like the tyres on your new bike were slicker or the road was slicker. But have at it with the odd theories, this is entertaining.

Edit - ah, didn't see second page (with exactly the same comments on)

I see what your meaning with your diagram and only extending the chainstays will make the force on the rear wheel less ie easier to skid but I still think a track frame is easier to skid. Your weight at the front is acting over the front axle so activly trying to pivot the rear wheel up round the front axle instead of acting behind the axle and still pushing the rear wheel down slightly, I think this would have more of an effect. I also rode a conversion that I could never skid well but found it easy using my brothers track bike, then when I got my own track bike that was fine too but I still cannot skid the conversion anywhere as easily as either of these track bikes.

total bullshit, like m a x said, if you can skid you can skid anything. brain-flick can skid his polo monstrosity, they anything can be skidded.

don't polo bikes generally have really low gears? Thats the easiest way to make a bike easy to skid

utter shit, you can skid anything that has a fixed wheel

I'm inclined to agree. Use the force and condition your legs, Tommy's explanation makes sense too.

err. you just stop pedalling right? loving the diagram, are you all nuts?

Mostly yes.

don't polo bikes generally have really low gears? Thats the easiest way to make a bike easy to skid

Explain skidding on a tall bike then.

Explain skidding on a tall bike then.

pretty crazy I imagine, although probably easier and slightly safer than a penny farthing!

total bullshit, like m a x said, if you can skid you can skid anything. brain-flick can skid his polo monstrosity, they anything can be skidded.

of course you can skid on any fixed wheel bicycle, I'm just talking about why it's *harder *to skid on road conversion.

Because you lack skill.

Maybe your not gripping the bars correctly?

sort you top tube/wheelbase out

i love this thread! lol :)

I find skidding really hard. I sadly can only really do it in the wet or when I tap the front brake to take some pressure off the rear wheel. The idea of not having a brake for me is suicide. How do I do it without pressing the front brake?

Whats your gearing?

jesus i forgot about this thread, some utter shite being spewed. if you can't skid, practice. don't blame the fucking bike!

Sure, but you're not gonna skid 100gi without detatching your shins from your thighs.

yeh, was referring to some of the stuff that was said on previous page.

GI obviously is the biggest factor. but then again, htfu?

I agree... can we argue anyway? Im bored.

yeh, fuck you balki! you spew shit about GI on here day in day out, what the fuck is that avatar anyway! DICK!

(that ok?)