Egypt FgSs

As terrible as the violence is, terrible violence that is almost entirely if not entirely state initiated, what is happening across North Africa / Saudi / Iran is very very encouraging.

The Gaddafi regime is looking very very desperate very very early (in compassion to the other recent revolutions) - their spokesman Saif al-Islam Muammar Al-Gaddafi (Gaddafi's son) is playing every demagogic card imaginable, it's hilarious.

The basic theme seems to be: democracy and freedom from state brutality = chaos.

Good grief this is bad, really bad, it might be a cultural / translational thing, but Saif al-Islam Muammar Al-Gaddafi's speech (AlJazeera / BBC right now) is embarrassingly desperate, the stuff he is coming out with is difficult to listen to if you are able to rise above very very basic demagoguery.

Jesus fucking Christ, this is only going to stir stuff up.

He has just presented the 'thugs' (the protesters) as numbering '100' and suggested tens of thousands of Gaddafi supporters are on the way Tripoli.

It's odd to think that he would need to deliver a national address to deal with 100 protesters ?

Fantastic, absolutely fucking fantastic, watching history unfold is always good, but free comedy thrown in makes it all the better, he blamed this popular uprising on drugs, the internet and separatists!

Jesus!!

Protesters have seized control of some military bases and tanks!

Is it just me here!? C'mon people these are some historical weeks, I can't believe this thread has only just crept to page 2 !

Gaddafi will be fine... his personal guards will look after him.

Gaddafi will be fine... his personal guards will look after him.

People are being shot in the head, children are being killed.

Dont forget the lolz too...

Fantastic, absolutely fucking fantastic, watching history unfold is always good, but free comedy thrown in makes it all the better

Dont forget the lolz too...

Ok, I didn't make my point very well, the point I tried to convey (with sarcasm) was the idea that the claims for the causes of the uprising were risible - 'comedy' here was intended to be ridicule not lightheartedness.

Don't get me wrong 'lolz' are cool but children are being shot in the street by their government.

Protesters have seized Benghazi !! The military have joined the side of the revolution in Benghazi.

Where are you following this? The World Service is talking about the possible increase in illegal immigrants as a result of this. :/

Apparently, the Italians are becoming increasingly concerned.

Where are you following this? The World Service is talking about the possible increase in illegal immigrants as a result of this. :/

Apparently, the Italians are becoming concerned.

I saw this, it's hilarious (and not a little prompted).

I am following this on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

and

http://www.tvcatchup.com/watch.html?c=17

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With nothing short of a revolution / regional crisis in process as we speak BBC News 24 has decided it should stick to it's programming schedule so it's now showing a repeat of 'click' it's tedious technology magazine.

A fucking repeat of a magazine show telling us about some mobile phone symposium.

Pointless.

There are certainly momentous changes afoot, but obviously a note of caution is needed as a whole region heads for instability--getting rid of these governments is good, but you just can't know yet what will follow them. Here's hoping that better governments will follow, though.

It's a bit like the revolution of the squares and roundabouts--Tahrir Square, Green Square, Pearl Roundabout--these gathering-places are very much a common feature.

Tunisia
Egypt
Libya
Bahrain
Yemen
Morocco
Iran

That's a lot of countries--is that the full list?

I am following this on:

http://english.aljazeera.net/watch_now/

and

http://www.tvcatchup.com/watch.html?c=17

Cheers for the links. I tried BBC but, as you said, I was getting very little

That's a lot of countries--is that the full list?

China?

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110220/ap_on_re_as/as_china_jasmine_revolution

Tunisia
Egypt
Libya
Bahrain
Yemen
Morocco
Iran

That's a lot of countries--is that the full list?

Nascent but in the offing, Jordan, West bank, Syria, perhaps in time even Saudi ?

Oman has limited protests too, but the situation there is far from volatile.

The Egyptian state ordered the army unit in Benghazi to open fire with live rounds on the local population !!

They (the army unit in Benghazi) refused to fire on unarmed civilians, so an army unit from Tripoli were called to open fire on the army unit from Benghazi - they shot and killed 150 members of the Benghazi army unit, the rest of the unit were imprisoned in the local jail.

The army unit from Tripoli then left Benghazi (reports say they 'ran away' ?) and then the local population freed the Benghazi army unit from prison - the Benghazi army unit have now unsurprisingly defected to the side of the protesters.

It sounds like mayhem.

The Egyptian state ordered the army unit in Benghazi to open fire with live rounds on the local population !!

I think your confusing your North African revolutionary uprisings, try Libya/Col Gaddafi.

It sounds like mayhem.

Yes, yes it does.
Let's just hope the power vacuums are filled with good, honest people.

Live Twitter map from Bahrain, Egypt, Libya, and Iran:
http://www.mibazaar.com/meprotests.html

£100 says he isn't (Dead, which he was before your edit)

(accepting the pre-edit 'dead')

Ok, £100 pounds, if I am wrong I will 'pay' you £100 pounds.

I think you'll find £100 has said anything in this thread fora week.

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With nothing short of a revolution / regional crisis in process as we speak BBC News 24 has decided it should stick to it's programming schedule so it's now showing a repeat of 'click' it's tedious technology magazine.

A fucking repeat of a magazine show telling us about some mobile phone symposium.

Pointless.

Heh, I work with one of the reporters from Click :)

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/theeditors/2011/02/reporting_from_libya.html

Good read.