If Leaders are rubbish, what is good?

what is kerning?

Yeah but it has MOTH written on it KUDOS just for the name

If you like the leader, try find somwhere in the UK that sells them that can provdie you with a guarantee.

no need, leader have a lifetime guarantee, if the frame cannot be repaired, they will replace it. If it can be repaired they will cover the costs.

what is kerning?

Character spacing, type nerd stuff... :]

gene spicer!!!

£300 dont like the steerer but hey its alright

The steerer? You sure? Only I can't see one there.

Bike Part ID Fail.

Have a look at the Dolan frames. They are pretty alright and around the same sort of cash.... and they're black. 15% off till tomorrow
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=897&CatID=105
I'm sure you can fish out a cheap fork from somewhere.

Chris

no need, leader have a lifetime guarantee, if the frame cannot be repaired, they will replace it. If it can be repaired they will cover the costs.

then surely its the obvious choice.

A frame your significant other has picked out himself because he likes it, only £100 and lifetime guarantee?

Jackpot I say!

The Leader may have shit looking welds, but its actually a well pit together bit of kit, and they have a god rep in the US for taking large amounts of abuse both on and off the track.

TBH if you want a cool looking aero frame with rear wheel cowling etc, you are not going to find anythinng better for under 500 quid. I would rather have the Leader than a Cinelli vigorelli or the planet x, as the geomety is much nicer (horizontal top tube on the new 09 model etc).

Take it town to armourtex and get it coated up in some crazy colour and you will have a pretty cool ride IMO

The On-one frame would make a wicked "Stealth" build...

i do believe that Seb Flickwg has a leader, and that it makes his langster look like a mercian.

leaders make the el cheapo dolans look like robyn mather frames!!

leaders make the el cheapo dolans look like robyn mather frames!!

had to look that up, a bit of an obscure reference isnt it? Some independent/hobbyist frame builder?

What are you trying to say, that leaders make dolans look like lugged steel frames?

look I found a picture of some poor lesbian messenger girl posing with hers...

shes couldnt even afford all the spokes to finish her wheels.

Must mean the leader is very very good value, right?

http://flickr.com/photos/83507837@N00/2383802926

had to look that up, a bit of an obscure reference isnt it? Some independent/hobbyist frame builder?

What are you trying to say, that leaders make dolans look like lugged steel frames?

Good grief...

had to look that up, a bit of an obscure reference isnt it? Some independent/hobbyist frame builder?

What are you trying to say, that leaders make dolans look like lugged steel frames?

errrrr...............

Character spacing, type nerd stuff... :]

ha!!!

and he's absolutely right too regarding the moth kerning.....

ha again!!!!!!!

Giant Bowery? I have one, hard to fault, especially for that money! (£225)

Well I wouldn't turn my nose up at one of these:

had to look that up, a bit of an obscure reference isnt it? Some independent/hobbyist frame builder?

What are you trying to say, that leaders make dolans look like lugged steel frames?

there was a thread about robyn mather on here before, and it's not that obscure. two weeks ago i doubt you even knew who leader were. dale's reference, and mine, lightheartedly casts doubt on the finish and build quality of leader frames, by referring to two examples of 'bespoke' or 'high end' frame building.

Have a look at the Dolan frames. They are pretty alright and around the same sort of cash.... and they're black. 15% off till tomorrow
http://www.ribblecycles.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=897&CatID=105
I'm sure you can fish out a cheap fork from somewhere.

Chris

I've just spoken to Ribble - and they told me that they don't know if they'll bother getting any more Dolan frames in. They've been waiting for them to be made, which appears quite a common theme amongst suppliers.....

They've been waiting for them to be made...

i prefer my frames to magic themselves out of thin air.

;)

I've just spoken to Ribble - and they told me that they don't know if they'll bother getting any more Dolan frames in.

That'll wipe the grin off his face...

had to look that up, a bit of an obscure reference isnt it? Some independent/hobbyist frame builder?

With posts like this have you considered dropping the 'deadly' and 'pack' from your username? It'd be more accurate. ;p

With posts like this have you considered dropping the 'deadly' and 'pack' from your username? It'd be more accurate. ;p

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