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• #127
tracing plates is only done by the fuzz, i'd go to them with your story, but the way things seem to be on with the police/cyclist communities, i wouldn't hope for much.
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• #128
platini; that's what i did, and it's not the first time that i have opted for the 'right' thing to do. but i really wonder how seriously they take it. a long time ago i was a victim of a hit and run at a set of lights, which i reported.(the preceding full stop replaced the coma that seem to confuse a reader as to when i reported the incident in question). 6 months later i got a letter from the police asking if i would take my own legal action against the driver as they did not intend to.
i think the police barely give a sh1t if you end up as road pizza, if your walking and talking after the incident they think you should carry on doing just that-on a pavement-and let them get on with playing cops and robbers.having dark fantasies about a phantom cyclist who rides round round-abouts all day waiting to be 'wronged' by a motorist so that he can exact a brutal and highly publicised mutilation of the driver with the result that it puts the sh1ts up the all the air heads at the wheels of death machines.
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• #129
dr.oblong it. a long time ago i was a victim of a hit and run at a set of lights, which i reported, 6 months later i got a letter from the police asking if i would take my own legal action against the driver as they did not intend to.
that's unbelievable. You should have replied ' No, but i'm going to take legal action against The Police Force for dereliction of duty'
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• #130
dr.oblong platini; that's what i did, and it's not the first time that i have opted for the 'right' thing to do. but i really wonder how seriously they take it. a long time ago i was a victim of a hit and run at a set of lights, which i reported, 6 months later i got a letter from the police asking if i would take my own legal action against the driver as they did not intend to.
i think the police barely give a sh1t if you end up as road pizza, if your walking and talking after the incident they think you should carry on doing just that-on a pavement-and let them get on with playing cops and robbers.having dark fantasies about a phantom cyclist who rides round round-abouts all day waiting to be 'wronged' by a motorist so that he can exact a brutal and highly publicised mutilation of the driver with the result that it puts the sh1ts up the all the air heads at the wheels of death machines.
I know the police aren't up to much sometimes, but if you start taking the law you'll see a much harder stance being taken by them - against you.
By brother got run over by a stolen car on a zebra crossing in Battersea some years ago, the cops never got anyone for it. Mind you, he scored GBP10k from the Criminal Injuries Compensation Board - eventually...
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• #131
A few years ago my then-girlfriend was hit by a car that raced a red crossing Upper Street. It was 1.30 am, on New Years Day - three of us were walking back from a New Years Eve party. Luckily, she was only badly bruised...
I got the plate of the car, and one of the witnesses was an off-duty police woman walking back from her shift.
We were taken to hospital by an un-marked police car (it happenend to be the first on the scene). We gave statements in A and E.
And we never heard anything ever again. A couple of phone calls to the Police got fobbed off... and that was that.
So, it isn't just cyclists... When it comes to peds, the police are as incompetent.
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• #132
so let me get this straight. You got hit by a car and it drove off. you then sat on your hands for six months and only then decided to report it to the police. and you feel aggrieved that the police did not investigate this?
I mean even if you report last night's incident, they find the car and owner go to his house and say "were you driving recklessly last night" and he goes "no" then its really just your word against his and noone can really be arsed to take that all the way to court.
Seems to me like a lot of people have pretty unrealistic expectations of police. Having said that, their attitude at times can be a little galling.
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• #133
Revenge it is then.
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• #134
having just read ro-lands comments tho....that takes the f*cking piss.
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• #135
dr.oblong having dark fantasies about a phantom cyclist who rides round round-abouts all day waiting to be 'wronged' by a motorist so that he can exact a brutal and highly publicised mutilation of the driver with the result that it puts the sh1ts up the all the air heads at the wheels of death machines.
Liking this idea, I'm a total sucker for some good old-fashioned revenge, especially of the underpants-over-leotard variety... Sod polo, when do we start? ;)
Hope you're OK dr.oblong...
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• #136
teenslain [quote]dr.oblong having dark fantasies about a phantom cyclist who rides round round-abouts all day waiting to be 'wronged' by a motorist so that he can exact a brutal and highly publicised mutilation of the driver with the result that it puts the sh1ts up the all the air heads at the wheels of death machines.
Liking this idea, I'm a total sucker for some good old-fashioned revenge, especially of the underpants-over-leotard variety... Sod polo, when do we start? ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zx7uRNAxJMc
You mean this guy?
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• #137
Aaaaargh!!! My eyes!!! On second thoughts... :)
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• #138
Could give him a hammer and tell him it was the motorists that put him in the leotard, y'know, like Oldboy... sort of.
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• #139
JimboJones so let me get this straight. You got hit by a car and it drove off. you then sat on your hands for six months and only then decided to report it to the police. and you feel aggrieved that the police did not investigate this?
I mean even if you report last night's incident, they find the car and owner go to his house and say "were you driving recklessly last night" and he goes "no" then its really just your word against his and noone can really be arsed to take that all the way to court.
Seems to me like a lot of people have pretty unrealistic expectations of police. Having said that, their attitude at times can be a little galling.
Who are you responding to here Jimbo? I think it's the police that 'sat on their hands' (or their arses) if it's dr oblong you're commenting on. They're the ones that took six months to send a letter saying nothing doing, not the good doctor. FYI.
Maybe we do have unrealistic expectations of the police, maybe we don't. I mean, how hard is for them to find the registered keeper of a vehicle if you can supply them with the Reg. no.? Not hard at all, happens all day every day if they feel like checking you've got insurance or what-have-you. i know we're unclear about the details of that case, but you missed an all-important comma as in 'I reported it, six months later I got a letter...
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• #140
jimbojones; re reading the post to which you refer i think i can see why you thought i reported the incident 6 months after if happened. i'll go back and put a full stop in and you wont need to give me the benefit of the doubt.
does anyone know the quickest way to immobilise a motor vehicle (against the driver wishes)?
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• #141
Apols top Dr. Oblong it was just the way i read the sentence!
Q: "does anyone know the quickest way to immobilise a motor vehicle (against the driver wishes)?"
A: a stinger missile
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• #142
i'm sure revenge was your initial thought as with most people and myself for that matter......but then i stop to think about the consequences are realise its not the best idea...
.an eye for an eye is bollocks
.violence breeds more violence
.police hate cyclist so you will get fucked by them
.i don't like the idea of using violence to teach a lessonon the other hand the police are a lazy bunch of tits...
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• #143
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• #144
teenslain; i'm fine, thanks.
but i do keep replaying the incident over in my mind wondering how it might have been much worse and what i would have done if i didn't do the right thing and trust the police to fuck all about it. the guy was totally out it and the more i think about it the more i wish i'd got him of his car, not for revenge but for public safety. -
• #145
Does a banana in the tailpipe really work? I've often considered have one in my bag at all times...
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• #146
Hey,
Interesting thread to pop up just now as Monday night a bus driver on oxford st tried to run me off the road. Not like he didn't see me or anything I was riding smoothly (not over taking or anything) and he was tail gating me for a distance first, then as soon as there was room on the other side of the road he pulled along side and the moved left as he looked at me out the front passenger door.
I've been riding around london for about 7 years and of course get cut off and so on all the time but never so obvious and blatently 'attacked'.
I tried to get his details but he wasn't talking to me, so I took a photo of the bus (he blinked his headlights trying to ruin the shot)
Called TFL and they said complaints could only be taken during business hours. So I went to a police station (Snow Hill in the end) and filled in an 'Self Reporting Form for Traffic Collision/Accident' (or something like that anyway).
Has anybody else done such a thing? any luck? I would think the police are a higher authority that TFL, but maybe I should still complain to TFL anyway?
thanks!
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• #147
joachim Hey,
Interesting thread to pop up just now as Monday night a bus driver on oxford st tried to run me off the road. Not like he didn't see me or anything I was riding smoothly (not over taking or anything) and he was tail gating me for a distance first, then as soon as there was room on the other side of the road he pulled along side and the moved left as he looked at me out the front passenger door.
I've been riding around london for about 7 years and of course get cut off and so on all the time but never so obvious and blatently 'attacked'.
I tried to get his details but he wasn't talking to me, so I took a photo of the bus (he blinked his headlights trying to ruin the shot)
Called TFL and they said complaints could only be taken during business hours. So I went to a police station (Snow Hill in the end) and filled in an 'Self Reporting Form for Traffic Collision/Accident' (or something like that anyway).
Has anybody else done such a thing? any luck? I would think the police are a higher authority that TFL, but maybe I should still complain to TFL anyway?
thanks!
Most buses have an ID number on the side, if you remember that, when and where, the bus company can usually find out who the driver was. A bus driver clipped my pedal as he was trying to close me out, prick, made the back of my bike hop off the ground, lucky to stay on. I reported it to the company, they said they had taken 'appropriate' action against the driver, whatever that means, but I assume they have to take such complaints seriously.
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• #148
i've made complaints about bus drivers, some of whom have definitely got a death wish.
08453007000 is the number and they get back in contact with you about your complaint with some details about what action they took. it seems that complaints do go on the drivers record and that tfl take the bad driving of buses more seriously than the police take bad driving by the public in general.
you must report any maniac who's managed to get a job driving a bus. i'm sure it's a stressful job at times but if they can't handle that they need to do something else.
btw, i'm very into taking pictures of bad drivers, their number plates and anything else that might establish who they are and what they've done.
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• #149
thanks people.
Just took your hint that TFL takes things more seriously than the police might and reported to them too.
They were pretty friendly and sure enough - while the driver is not particularly clear in the photo, the bus number and licence plate were.
And interestingly yes - there was a yellow card in the front window of the bus clearly visible in the photo which they say is the driver number - so with all that they should be able to triangulate in on the driver.
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• #150
terribly sad...
Go to the police, that's what they are there for...