Epic fail

i remember ultimate base at the velvet rooms, jimbos night

was on the permanent guest list, so many fridays destroyed

ig playing down at plastic, those were the days after coop relocated from velvet rooms

for bottom end plastic has the best sound in london

for fidelity its the lucky cloud/batb/loft party sound, klipschorn speakers and valve amps, custom modded turntables, handmade e&s mixer etc

[strike]no words needed[/strike]

Maybe they are the true victor in that they have not lost all trust & faith in fellow humans?

*probably not, but like I said in Japan, that is legit if not overkill locking.

not really, different law, and the fact it's 'just a bike' to them may factor in this.

regarding Japan, the reason why the bike are not locked with expensive heavy duty lock is simple - the law, they're different in Japan, if you were caught, you are very likely not to get a fair hearing, or even a trial at all.

while here, all they get is a slap on the wrist, and perhaps some fine, but that it, simply because they don't see it as a serious crime, and why would they? to them it's only a cheap bicycle that can be replaced.

locking system that does not work.

It still has the pie-plate and says 'Trek' on it. That should be enough security, Shirley?

not really, different law, and the fact it's 'just a bike' to them may factor in this.

regarding Japan, the reason why the bike are not locked with expensive heavy duty lock is simple - the law, they're different in Japan, if you were caught, you are very likely not to get a fair hearing, or even a trial at all.

while here, all they get is a slap on the wrist, and perhaps some fine, but that it, simply because they don't see it as a serious crime, and why would they? to them it's only a cheap bicycle that can be replaced.

Sorry Ed

There is no proof that laws act as deterrents anywhere in the world.

Sorry Ed

There is no proof that laws act as deterrents anywhere in the world.

There's also no proof that if you get hit in the face with a meteor, you'll die.

What's your point?

Snap!

There's also no proof that if you get hit in the face with a meteor, you'll die.

What's your point?

The point was - If there are more strict laws with harsher punishment these do no act as deterrents

i.e if some one WANTS to nick your bike they will - they will not stop and think, oh I wont do that because it's against the law.

The point was - If there are more strict laws with harsher punishment these do no act as deterrents

i.e if some one WANTS to nick your bike they will - they will not stop and think, oh I wont do that because it's against the law.

You what?
So there are more bikes stolen than banks robbed everyday because what, people don't want to walk out of a bank with £100k of someone elses money, no they would rather steal a bike.

Depends where you live.

Lock from pedal to spokes will certainly stop you riding it. In many places that is all you need/excessive. think Japan or the Netherlands..

Is there really that little bike theft in japan and NL?

You what?
So there are more bikes stolen than banks robbed everyday because what, people don't want to walk out of a bank with £100k of someone elses money, no they would rather steal a bike.

Stealing a bike is easier

more bikes than banks?

banks have fuck all money?

Banks already have our money?

No, it's because Ed has already contacted all the banks and got them to buy proper locks and not to leave the money there overnight.

Stealing a bike is easier

Ok fair enough, i was just trying to make the point that it's clear that the possibility of being caught and the penalty that you will suffer if you are caught factors pretty largely in peoples decisions about breaking laws.

Ok fair enough, i was just trying to make the point that it's clear that the possibility of being caught and the penalty that you will suffer if you are caught factors pretty largely in peoples decisions about breaking laws.

But that's not true

If it was the murder rate in countries with death penalty as the punishment would be lower than countries with out - for example.

nearly 25 posts since the poorly locked bike pic, and nobodys noticed the obvious.

Its a fecking Trek!

Hows that quick release wheel, and weak looking pedal, going to stop someone nicking the chain and padlock. Thats what I want to know.

nearly 25 posts since the poorly locked bike pic, and nobodys noticed the obvious.

Its a fecking Trek!

Hows that quick release wheel, and weak looking pedal, going to stop someone nicking the chain and padlock. Thats what I want to know.

It still has the pie-plate and says 'Trek' on it. That should be enough security, Shirley?

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http://www.lfgss.com/post1194468-4244.html

I was just pointing out that Pifko had already made the Trek joke, not asking what they meant. And now I look like a twat. Story of my life. sob

Davey you look like a twat. wake up.

I was just pointing out that Pifko had already made the Trek joke, not asking what they meant. And now I look like a twat. Story of my life. sob

I was saying that Smallfurry's comment was an epic fail =P

But that's not true

If it was the murder rate in countries with death penalty as the punishment would be lower than countries with out - for example.

Also we don't know, if there wouldn't be more murders if they could go away easier

I was saying that Smallfurry's comment was an epic fail =P
Ha, now I look even more stupid! Must resist posting on Friday afternoon when bored at work...

Ha, now I look even more stupid! Must resist posting on Friday afternoon when bored at work...

Doesn't help that I keep quoting them for all to see ;)

Haha, bastard! :)

The point was - If there are more strict laws with harsher punishment these do no act as deterrents

i.e if some one WANTS to nick your bike they will - they will not stop and think, oh I wont do that because it's against the law.

I sometimes smoke funny fags in the street, if I get caught I will get a fine and a caution. I sometimes exceed the speed limit on an open road, I might get points on my licence.

I used to want to inflict harm on people who have done me a wrong'un in the past but I wont because the thought of having my liberty removed and having to spend my days in fear at Her Majesty's pleasure frightens the shit out of me.

The escalating severity of punishment keeps me on the straight and narrow.