• haven't calmed down yet then :-)

    the wider team pro is much more comfortable than the swallow/swift.
    but the rails don't allow the saddle to move as far back which is why i'm not swapping my ti swift for one.
    i have a steel team pro that i used for the dynamo with cheap shorts and udder creme 130 miles with no problem.

    try some assos creme before you ditch the saddle though as this will stop the friction. also padded shorts vary massively from a thin bit of foam to a proper long distance pad like the assos mille (which i have) cannondale/assos/descente/gore/nike/castelli etc use good chamois pads but expect to pay £40+ for anything decent.

  • Nalini bibs £15, if you're into that kind of thing..
    http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=C8185

  • nimbles

    as a slight expansion on the HTFU theme if it's been a while since you've done that distance then i think you would have had some discomfort whatever saddle you were using.

    There is a degree of 'conditioning' the extremities to longer distances. Perspiration can compound this and stuff like nappy cream or chamois butter acts as a barrier to prevent salty abrasions

  • +1

    Even after a fortnight's holiday I have to recondition my arse for a week before I'm back to a comfortable commute.

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  • yup

    Well if you are looking for someone to sell it to, I'm your man. PM me a price, and I'll see if I can afford it.

  • 3 pictures.

    Ghost car!!

  • yeah i think greasy slag only crashed cos of those ghost cars on that bend - spooky

  • i dreamed about cycling all night... and kick my wife twice... and now my legs are not talking to me

  • nimbles

    as a slight expansion on the HTFU theme if it's been a while since you've done that distance then i think you would have had some discomfort whatever saddle you were using.

    +1 it's too easy to blame the gear, Nimmo. if you get another saddle and do 5 hour rides it'll still hurt until you do more riding, it's as simple as that. I know you've not these distances before, or this kind of time in the saddle.

    be thankful you even got there at all, for a novice you did really well and you should be happy with the achievement.

    STFU HTFU PTFO GTFOTC

  • Fantastic ride yesterday. Jonny, cheers for organising that, top ride and a beautiful day for it! Greasy hope you're back on the bike soon.

  • yeah, well, thanks for all the advice, you may be right, as i haven't done THAT kind of distance before, it's true. BUT, i regularly do 15-25 miles, and the saddle kills me on that too.
    and yesterday, it wasn't just discomfort, it was actually having to get off the bike every 2 miles and jump around in pain - as Prav will confirm.
    it just doesn't seem quite right to me. i will get some better padded shorts, yes, but i shouldn't need to cream up my buttocks just to do 20 miles, now should i?

    i've been suspecting for a few weeks that the swallow is not for me, i mgith be too heavy for it -it does bend like a fucker when i sit on it

  • Nalini bibs £15, if you're into that kind of thing..
    http://www.probikekit.com/display.php?code=C8185

    cheers - are they any good then?

  • I just buy used ones off ebay to try them out. If they fit, keep them. If not, put them back on ebay. Found the SLRs my new fave over Selle Italia Flite but you really need to find out which saddle shape matches your arse. Generally the popular ones are Brooks, Flite, San Marco Rolls, SLR and the Fizik Arione. Most others are just cheaper/expensive variations on those shapes and styles.

    Saddle positioning is also key. If it is the right saddle in the wrong place you will do yourself no favours. Trial and error.

  • cheers - are they any good then?

    I don't know. I don't like bibs.
    But they are a reputable brand and so damn cheap it'd be a good starting point.

  • james if you want to borrow a well broken in team pro to try you are more than welcome to.
    when buying shorts try to find a picture of the pad some are very rudimentary, just a bit of foam. i think you get what you pay for.
    having forked out for a pair of assos i will not be buying cheap shorts again. just ordered some adidas adistar bibs as they were recommended to me along with the cannondale carbon bibs.

  • weedio:
    http://www.vimeo.com/1175404

    Nice shooting PeterD, saves me going on the ride :)

    @ Gabes, I see you managed to get your Hed3 sorted, I took those pictures of the pump that fits and the valve 90 degree bend adaptor thing (which you don't need if you just get the right kind of track pump) - but forgot to send them to you !! (been busy!!)

    Did you get any Hed3 autosteer ?

  • nice video peterd
    @nimbles,on sat i was running a slr, which i took the padding off, so just a hard carbon shell, my jockey y-fronts and a pair of the same trousers you were wearing (endura humvees) with no padding and my arse was fine.
    as hippy said, i think different saddles suit different arses.

  • this is all very well, but I'm starting to remember the insults the fat train bitch was getting..

    heh!

  • what like "you need a damn good riding"???

  • nice video peterd
    @nimbles,on sat i was running a slr, which i took the padding off, so just a hard carbon shell, my jockey y-fronts and a pair of the same trousers you were wearing (endura humvees) with no padding and my arse was fine.
    as hippy said, i think different saddles suit different arses.

    Up to a point a hard saddle is more comfortable. Certain parts of your anatomy are out of the way/recessed due to their delicate nature. As soon as you start padding things out to any great extent you allow areas that would normally not make contact with what you are sitting on bear some of your weight.

    I have run an old SLR stripped of padding for a while and loved it - did the 2005 L2B on it with an old pair of cut down jeans and got zero bum trouble, my friends who had gel saddle covers on already very soft wide padded saddles and padded shorts had to stop every 5 or 10 miles for an arse break.

    I also think that folk who have cycled for a few years naturally tend to shift about on the saddle quite a bit, where as newcomers tend to sit in one position - this can also add to the arse trauma.

    Thank you.

    Tynan (Professor of Arseology)


    Next week: Balls.

  • james if you want to borrow a well broken in team pro to try you are more than welcome to.

    cheers, but not sure when i'll be seeing you next - i just looked up the team pro, and the Ti version costs more than the swallow anyway! crazy money...

    i'd be interested to try it, for sure, just not sure if my arse is a brooks arse

  • Can we do balls early? PLeeeease Professor tynan?

  • Tynan will be releasing a short educational film on the subject, Broke Arse Mounting

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