Current Projects chat and miscellany

I might give 49:18 a go, or even 46:18. I've got most cogs and a few rings so I'll have a go, I do miss fixed, particularly on climbs!

And 28s? What tyres? I was going to get some for a winter build but I run GP4000s on all my bikes and they don't make 'em!

On my daily fixed I've got a gp4000s 25c up front and a 28 hardshell back.

Got the 28 hardshells on the back as they last for ages, only mentioned them as it affects gi.

For ultimate comfort on our awful roads, running 32c paselas on the commuter/winter bike... So smooth.

TM would you recommend gp4000 up front?
hardshell feels a bit squeaky on the wet tarmac

Definitely, I've been avoiding running gators on front since last winter when my front end slid out a couple of times it really shouldn't have. GP4000s rides really nice and much grippier than a gator.

I run GP4000 on my geared bike and they are by far the best tyre I have ever used. Fantastic in the wet, puncture protection is great, low rolling resistance and fairly light.

Best tyre available that ticks all the boxes I think.

This review rates them in the wet and I've no complaints either.

Sweet.
Need some new tyres.
Thinking 25c hardshell in rear and 25c GP4000 in front should be good.

Yeah, GP4000s for the win. I don't really like hardshells, is there a 'sporty' 28 available? Scoble?

Possibly the Vittoria Rubino Pro that also come in 28mm.

280g is very promising for a 28mm all season tyres (Gatorskin in 28mm is 320g).

The Grand Prix 4 Seasons come in 28mm and weight 250g, I never liked Contis, but the GP4 Seasons is defintely a great tyres.

Thanks Ed!

TM what are the gp4000s like for puncture protection?

i'm thinking of either going gp4000s front/hardshell rear or twin maxxis refuses, does anyone have experience of the refuses in the wet?

TM what are the gp4000s like for puncture protection?

i'm thinking of either going gp4000s front/hardshell rear or twin maxxis refuses, does anyone have experience of the refuses in the wet?

I've ridden exclusively GP4000s for the past year or so, commuting and at the weekend and I seem to think the only punctures I've had have been down to dodgy tubes or pinching tubes when installing. The tyres are quite a tight fit on some rims.

I don't fixeh skid or anything, though.

TM what are the gp4000s like for puncture protection?

The 4 Seasons would be a better choice for puncture resistance.

Definitely, I've been avoiding running gators on front since last winter when my front end slid out a couple of times it really shouldn't have. GP4000s rides really nice and much grippier than a gator.

I might have to look into getting a couple of these then, had bad luck running hardshells front and rear.

Have you ever run one on the back fixed?

edit: are they as prone to cuts as other conti tyres?

TM what are the gp4000s like for puncture protection?

i'm thinking of either going gp4000s front/hardshell rear or twin maxxis refuses, does anyone have experience of the refuses in the wet?

Refuses have a gnarled tread pattern so very grippy - I use one on the front only.

Just notice C+ said this about the 4 Seasons;

The price is high, though, and the 25 and 28 versions are more like 24 and 26mm in actual measurement terms.

No good for skids, stick with hardshells for rear. 28c ftw.

No p*****res as yet on the GP4000s, probably done about 400 miles, city, countryside, pub, all fine, touch wood.

I thought refuses had bad rep in the wet?

Ed is probably right, 4 seasons will be tougher than gp4000, but it's doing fine for me.

have bad luck

is more realistic indra ;)

thanks drgslrnn, makes the descision harder, as do you pony, gah!

might get on down to the skidding thread and see what the durability is like on refuses, if it's good then i might get them, cheaper than hardshells and gp4000's too...

Ed is probably right, 4 seasons will be tougher than gp4000, but it's doing fine for me.

If I was getting punctures I'd move to 4 seasons, but no need right now.

Y NO 28 THO?

No good for skids, stick with hardshells for rear. 28c ftw.

No p*****res as yet on the GP4000s, probably done about 400 miles, city, countryside, pub, all fine, touch wood.

I thought refuses had bad rep in the wet?

Ed is probably right, 4 seasons will be tougher than gp4000, but it's doing fine for me.

Cheers, I'm fine with shit skid qualities as I don't skid like an idiot anymore, well not on my fast bike. I don't really skid it at all.

Got away with some conti race tyres until they had too many cuts to trust.

gp 4 seasons are good.
grand prix are equally good. but a bit nicer rolling

Y NO 28 THO?

There is, Rubino Pro.

Want (theorically) the best? get the Challenge Strada Bianca 30c.

There is, Rubino Pro.

What's the puncture protection like on Rubino Pros?

Not enough to ride in the gutter if that's what you're asking.