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no pro bro!
looked like a decent frame for not-crazy-money. Glad it goes to somebody who will do it justice as well.

She looks beautiful...

Seconded.

Unless you've got real WW rims you'll easily be fine with 28h on the rear. I'm c.83-6kg and ride with a bag on 28h/28h open pros through London.

As you're pretty light you've got plenty of scope and it really comes down to budget and aesthetics. How much do you want to spend? Do you want front and rear to match?

Stans Alpha's 28h/24h with Sapim lasers and a lighting front road hub. Would be my initial thought... maybe with some slightly more heavy duty rear spokes.

Or some Kinlin 380's... basically there are loads of choices. It just depends what you're after and what your limitations are.

Thanks for the help, don't really want to spend more than 200 on a wheel set

I prefer them to match, no real need for a braking surface, i could always get a different road front wheel if i needed to fit one for the odd ride.

you need braking surface Aches & pains? you need them to match? fixed?
how fat tyres?

23c for the frame i have in mind, maybe 25c in the rear if it fits.

fixed gear and most likely brakeless, should i worry about skidding with 28h?

Nahh, you'll be fine.

should i worry about skidding with 28h?

depends. low flange laced to low profile rims gets a different answer to high flange laced to deep V

Thanks for the help, don't really want to spend more than 200 on a wheel set

I prefer them to match, no real need for a braking surface,

buy these. better safe than sorry

http://www.lfgss.com/thread98220.html

Edit: double posted

Edit again: make that triple, oops...

While i'm here i may as well...

thinking of getting this from Hilary Stone

been on sale for ages, been looking at it or ages to, maybe able to work out a deal by swapping parts for a lower price, bit on the small side but fits, looks great to. If the tight clearances is to much to handle i can always simply just swap the frame and use all the same parts on something else.

so i want to build it as clean looking as i can basically, with with the 23c's i may as well try and keep the weight down on the wheels.

clearance? that's touching!

Personally, I wouldn't trust that or feel comfortable for street riding. my fork clearance is tight, but the downtube is the one that makes me more nervous after hearing various horror stories i.e. sumo mentioned someone on here hit a pothole and the tinyest bit of fork flex sent him flying because of rizla clearances between wheel and downtube.

that was Fruit. It also happened to someone else I can't remember the name of. That Chick frame is made for 19c tyres.

Thanks for the help, don't really want to spend more than 200 on a wheel set

I prefer them to match, no real need for a braking surface, i could always get a different road front wheel if i needed to fit one for the odd ride.

23c for the frame i have in mind, maybe 25c in the rear if it fits.

fixed gear and most likely brakeless, should i worry about skidding with 28h?

depends on your weight. as long as you're below 90kg you should be fine.. and go stan ztr iron cross, they do 28h and can be had sub 40gbp each off ebay. thats what im doing anyway:)

That chick doesn't have a headset fitted, so its pretty difficult to determine how tight it will be, definitely not as tight as the picture shows through.

good point...

I think with the headset it wont be as tight on the down tube

if it is for 19c, then forget it.

The fork does look like it might be a problem though? doesn't seem to have any cut out.

If its pictured with a 23c, i was thinking i could try use a wider rim, then eventually swap the rear for the front after its worn down a bit, should help a bit?

spose' id always have that niggling feeling of that front clearance

The only way to know whether it will be ridable is to put a headset and a clincher wheel & tyre in it and then have a look. 700c clinchers are not the same size as the 28" tubulars in the pictures.

Emailed Hilary Stone about the clearance, hopefully its a good reply.

one thing about my steamroller is not having to worry about clearance!

So, some updates on the weight weenying of my Boardman CX (kinda sounds like the start to a bad joke...).

Finished building up the wheelset, by my reckoning, they should weigh around 1500g - ZTR Iron Cross rims, DT Super Comp triple butted spokes, DT 1.8mm alu nipples, and Novatec hubs, so not doing too bad there, awaiting a new 140g Selle Italia SLR Fibra and some light weight Alligator rotors, have fitted a rather nice tuned Rival rear mech (153g or so) from Oswald, thinking of Ritchey stem and carbon post, and just won an auction for a Hollowgram 53/39 chainset for £190! :D

This is turning out to be a pretty good xmas so far.

another lazy question, is there a CX thread? sort of thing id like to get into

also, my Steamroller is growing on me, had a few good rides on it lately, maybe ill keep it.....

200 on a wheel set...
match...
no braking surface...
23c... maybe 25c

... and go stan ztr iron cross, they do 28h and can be had sub 40gbp each off ebay.

I don't know about ztr iron crosses (I haven't searched), but if I rode brakeless on the road I would definitely go for disc rims as they'll be lighter and wider.

The two things I would double check are the max pressure of the rim and the width. Disc rims are likely to be wider which is fine, but some might be quite a bit wider which might be an issue on too small a tyre. Check sheldons tyre rim chart to be sure.

The advantage though is that they'll bring the profile of you tyre down a bit so you can run a larger tyre, which then means you can run them at a lower psi.

I don't think you'll find any 29'er rims that come in sub-28h drilling so you're stuck with 28/28h. In which case save some weight by using a light road hub for the front and lighter spokes. Unfortunately light spokes will push the price up. You can reduce that a [i]bit/[i] by going for silver. Pillar spokes are cheaper than sapim (and by Internet accounts very similar).

Otherwise given your tyre sizes and the fact you're not going to run a brake I'd go for an all silver build - one of the medium depth kinLin's - 380(?) 28/20 or 28/24 with novatech hubs... Maybe a road front... BHS do a slightly wider front which should increase the stiffness a bit on a low spoke count.

Wheelbuilding thread >>>>>>>>>>>>>

tuned Rival rear mech (153g or so)

Pics on the scale please.

No hugo, the ztr ironcross rims are actually 28h, and they are 29er rims, hence my choice. I am stuck with 28/28 too:)
AngelD created a thread about those somewhere, and he has been running them for a while too.

Pics on the scale please.

Pic as sale ..

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I'd be interested in what the wheelset comes out at, have you got a suitable means of weighing them?