Current Projects chat and miscellany

It's for the Average Joe with about £120 to invest in getting fitted properly. Pretty cheap compared with getting the wrong bike and then having to sell it on 6 months later.

Well there's two Specialized fitting centers not too far from me in kingston, so might check em out, but to be honest, was thinking of next bike as more of a budget item. Think I'll get away with a 56cm frame alright and it gives me a chance to get used to a road bike a bit and play around with different setups on it to see what I get on with, before saving up for a nice (and expensive) bike that I probably will get fitted for.

a few users asked me to post some pics of details (BB) from my blue custom bike...
you guys can't imagine the time i spent smoothing those weldings (lol!)

Nice Noca, very nice!

Apolloxl, why didn't u put the sugino crank on that "cleaner bike"?

;)

Tilover, is the lever braze-on or band-on? If latter you just need move it up a fraction to get adjustment on the thread at the rear. I guess you will have worked that out though. Another way is to use a half-link to put the wheel back a fraction and this will give you adjustment when you slacken off cable to compensate.

you guys can't imagine the time i spent smoothing those weldings

did you actually smooth them yourself?

yeah! ;)

spotter - will you be trying to make your leader welds smooth?

its already got smooth welds actually, It was made before they started cheaping out. My new frame set is here so my old one is going to be up for sale soon as soon as I get my spokes for my new wheel. I hope i can get it finished in time for a xmas day ride

Noca did you just sand them down by hand?

Spokeless wheels, all the rage for 2012 kids!

Its done with magnets if anyone is interested

first i used a electric sand machine but 80% was by hand.
but the smoothing was not only the "sand" part.

i don't think it's safe to smooth a regular weld. I asked mine to be FAT weldings.
after sanding the weldings i applied a "betume" (sorry! don't know the english word for it) and than i sand it all again. Than i applied the "aparelho" (eh eh! Again english word...) and than sand it again. That way the welds became as smooth as baby skin :)

betume

does that mean 'filler'?

hummm! I think so ;)

after sanding it the 99,9% of the filler desappear.
I only use it to fill the micro-NANO-irregularities (lol!) -------------> call me crazy :D

first i used a electric sand machine but 80% was by hand.
but the smoothing was not only the "sand" part.

i don't think it's safe to smooth a regular weld. I asked mine to be FAT weldings.
after sanding the weldings i applied a "betume" (sorry! don't know the english word for it) and than i sand it all again. Than i applied the "aparelho" (eh eh! Again english word...) and than sand it again. That way the welds became as smooth as baby skin :)

A true bitch of a job, but you've made it look superb Noca. Nice colour too!
Out of interest, how much less (%) was the frame to have made (if anything) with rough welds?

can you refrase the question?

I think he's asking about cost.
How much cheaper was it to have the frame build without the welds being tidied?

i think he wants to know if it cost more to have 'big' welds on the frame?

er.... i can't answer that.
I don't know it for sure but i think Valdemiro will ask for the same €€€

Fair enough.

Was just wondering how cheap it would be for me to have someone weld a frame for me, if I was to do all the finishing work.

Anyone on these forums a frame builder?

Rourkie is a reputed builder.

A lot depends on the material, type of joint method, extra bits - internal cable routing ect.

The polo guy's are getting steel frames for around £300-400. Ryan of Spring break is a frame builder, he owns/runs Oak cycles. There's Ted James. There's a lot around if you look. There's a site where they give you a list of prices for each part, you then add it up and that's your price.

Tilover, is the lever braze-on or band-on? If latter you just need move it up a fraction to get adjustment on the thread at the rear. I guess you will have worked that out though. Another way is to use a half-link to put the wheel back a fraction and this will give you adjustment when you slacken off cable to compensate.

nah it's braze on actually but it may not stretch that much - we shall see!

Spokeless wheels, all the rage for 2012 kids!

Thats awesome. Are they like disc wheels with clear sides?