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Put it back and walk away.

Look bent to me

Put it back and walk away.

:D

Yes, exactly, like they're in a knobbly knees contest or something!

... and those people who manage to pedal with really wide knees, if that makes sense to anyone.

ha the only thing I think you could save on that is the stem, and it aint even worth it!

New Steve Thornhill beater on its way, can't wait to get it all stratched up and give it a hard life.

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my latest build

Is it me, or does that seem to have a very steep head angle? Looks like 76° head/73° seat

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I thought it'd just had the aspect ratios all fucked. Looks tiny and super-steep, can't be real.

I wondered about aspect ratio, but the wheels look round. Even if it was anamorphic, the head angle would still be much steeper than the seat, which is odd in this day and age.

Wheels look ok on a quick job, and then I just really wanted to do all the other lines.

None of this angle stuff makes any sence to me, what's supposedly odd about it, I'm intrigued!?

Most bikes in medium sizes have parallel seat tube and head tube, and nearly always between 73° and 74° for modern race bikes. A steeper head tube makes the steering quicker for various reasons I'll leave you to research for yourself, and also reduces the front centres distance for a given effective top tube length, causing the toe overlap you've probably already noticed on that Condor.

It's because the bars are turned in isn't it?
shouldn't look so bad if it were straight like

Turning the bars doesn't move the head tube. Or, at least, if it does you should stop riding the bike until you get it repaired.

Most bikes in medium sizes have parallel seat tube and head tube, and nearly always between 73° and 74° for modern race bikes. A steeper head tube makes the steering quicker for various reasons I'll leave you to research for yourself, and also reduces the front centres distance for a given effective top tube length, causing the toe overlap you've probably already noticed on that Condor.

A lot of toe overlap! I'll have a look into it, stiff track frames with ultra tight clearances are relatively new to me. Can't wait to get it out on the track though!

I think the straight bladed 30mm ish rake fork is making it look really steep. I had a Dolan that looked similar, although head tube does look around 75.

Porter, doesn't that saddle hurt your guiche?

guiche?

What's that, some kind of lower class Italian-American, egg based savoury pie?

i love this.
this is your second homebuild right?
good work!
in fact have some rep.

Why, thank you, it is, indeed, No.2. and possibly the slowest ever bike build.

What's that, some kind of lower class Italian-American, egg based savoury pie?

The soft membrane between the gary and clemy's

Turning the bars doesn't move the head tube.

No shit sherlock. But it makes the fork rake look out, for handling the head angle is somewhat relevant to the fork's angles.

The soft membrane between the gary and clemy's

Some sort of slang for a part of Cumbria?

Yeah, 3km's east of Kendal

Porter, doesn't that saddle hurt your guiche?

I had only just fitted the saddle when the picture was taken and haven't ridden it yet, but looking at it i think it will need some adjusting...

No shit sherlock. But it makes the fork rake look out, for handling the head angle is somewhat relevant to the fork's angles.

You're teaching your grandmother to suck eggs here, but we're not concerned with the fork.

The head tube and seat tube converge not far below the bike; an unusual arrangement by modern standards, and not obviously justified by any other consideration such as a Max sized frame