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Just got this. 126 OLN. New beater!

Not bad for a beater!! Not bad at all :)

just got back with this:

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not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, it's in full tt mode at the moment.. but I rode it from waterloo to euston and jeez, the whirr from the wheels...

That looks like a beauty

Hipster :-)

Not bad for a beater!! Not bad at all :)

Oner off ebay. The lister photographed it badly.

What is the world coming to when a beautiful hand crafted Ciocc is described as a beater. Bloody hipsters. ;-)

Nice frame Bill.

Continuing in the Hipster vain. Just bought a rear track one of these (for rising round east London)

Hipster

^Genius. Watch out for those cross winds though :(

That frame is ace! i want one :)

What is the world coming to when a beautiful hand crafted Ciocc is described as a beater. Bloody hipsters. ;-)

Nice frame Bill.

This is how I am describing it, to justify yet more outlay on bikes! This will be the 5th bison in the herd. :-)

The best thing about the magic gearing, is that once you found the perfect combination to get a good tension, you won't ever need to tighten your chain again when it go slack.

Speakin from some experience, I'd say it don't quite work like that. If you've got absolutely zero scope for movement in the dropouts you' won't get consistently good chain tension with a magic gear. My vertical dropout frame enabled a little back and forth, no more than half a mill, but enough to help. Its still a lot of effing about, and a much better long term solution is an eccentric hub, which is what I went for.

The best thing about the magic gearing, is that once you found the perfect combination to get a good tension, you won't ever need to tighten your chain again when it go slack.

Would need to use a worn chain as the wear on new ones can happen fairly quickly and go from a just right amount of tension to 'shit my chain has bounced off when going down a hill' amount of tension.
An experience I had when using a magic gear 6 years ago on my first fixed bike. Bought a track ended frame the following day!

eccentric BB is defintely the way to go, a bigger choice of hubs (providing the spacing is 120mm).

That frame is ace! i want one :)

Thanks.. :)

This frame sadly appears to be a road frame converted to trackends at some point in it's life... Geometry wise it only changes the BB height, the track-version only has a BB height of 26,5cm.. and this one is even lower at 25,5 or something like that...

Had my first pedalstrike this morning, nothing happened though, but it's not a nice feeling.

The cranks I use now are 172,5mm road stronglight-cranks.. I'm going to switch to Miche Primato 165's when I find some older ones at a good price.

eccentric BB is defintely the way to go, a bigger choice of hubs (providing the spacing is 120mm).

Does look like a good solution although you would be tied to using one of them new fangled external BB chainsets

oh you can't use normal crankset then? well that a drag.

165's FTW when rocking conversions, definately.

hm.. might as well join in seeing as it's my frame that prompted it, even though I posted the "etc. etc." knowing it was all said before. i've spoken to a couple of people on here who've had no problem with the magic gear in terms of chain wear screwing it up and I'd prefer to go that route if I can as i feel you're limited to the strengths and weaknesses of whichever eccentric hub you get (and they don't come cheap). But in terms of the BB - there are obviously attendant limitations here too - what cranks do you have as options using an eccentric bb?

Just got this. 126 OLN. New beater!

result!

Mrlemon:
It's funny that mr Rinaldi made both the road and track-version of the frame with 78-79 degree angles, seattube+headtube.. I think most framebuilders would say this is pure madness.

I have never ridden a bike that handles quite like this, it feels really different compared to a normal ~75-degree frame. Quite fun, handles really fast, but I don't think I'd like it on a 200km ride.. :)

What feels most weird and uncomfy is that the seat is very far forward, even though I put the Turbo as far back as possible it still feels weird..
I guess it's nice for speed/TT'ing - if the bike wasn't a bit too small for me and I had dropbars on it.

Mostly though, I think Rinaldi wasn't a very good bicycle designer.
I do like the bike for it's early 80's Italian craziness, and it is quite rideable with the risers on it. I know some would call it a sin to put riserbars on a rare frame like this one... but as it isn't even an original track frame... :)

Nice one Bill. Gears? Polo? Pub?

Mrlemon:
It's funny that mr Rinaldi made both the road and track-version of the frame with 78-79 degree angles, seattube+headtube.. I think most framebuilders would say this is pure madness.

Well, for a road version, the first thing come to mind are classic time trial;

just got back with this:

/attachments/13938 /attachments/13939

not sure what I'm going to do with it yet, it's in full tt mode at the moment.. but I rode it from waterloo to euston and jeez, the whirr from the wheels...

FFS...
LoProPoLoCo is Orrrrrrrwn.

Swap ya the mavic for the HED.
Hohoho...

oh you can't use normal crankset then? well that a drag.

Not the ones I've seen. Need the room created by the external BB to allow the bearing shell to be eccentric I think. Be tricky to get much movement from a square taper and still have decent size bearings in there.

FFS...
LoProPoLoCo is Orrrrrrrwn.

Swap ya the mavic for the HED.
Hohoho...

yeah, but it's all geared and shit at the moment.. I've a feeling the Piper'll be ready first..

Talking about craziness, nice cranks... !!!

Well, for a road version, the first thing come to mind are classic time trial;