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thats gonna be amazing
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Tight clearance front!
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:D Aha!
Seriously though, the current project thread makes me want to look into old bikes, frames etc, ASM pm'd me a nice one earlier, just need to talk about it with someone, after trying out Soul's ladybike...
i could take a look if you want. . . pm it . . . im not that knowledgable but its wortha try, pm dutch cheese - he is legendary when it comes to information about frames. . . -
So I've built up my Orrell and I've been riding it around - and it's lovely to ride :)
Not finished yet, need to wait for Mack to finish making my hubs (set of black high flange superlights with blue lock rings/washers) so I can get my wheels built - think it's going to be black open pros and black nipples. Until then I'm riding on the wheels from my Flyer. Probably needs a black chain really too, how impractical...
I've got some metal blue Fizik bar tape I'm thinking of fitting to match the saddle/bars, but not completely decided on this yet. Any thoughts on to wrap or not to wrap, or half wrap, appreciated.
PORN
i hope mine comes out that nice
did you get decals from the man himself? im calling him on friday about a set
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i could take a look if you want. . . pm it . . . im not that knowledgable but its wortha try, pm dutch cheese - he is legendary when it comes to information about frames. . .
Ed's been providing a lot of information lately, and he's been teaching me via MSN everything that I should/need to know, but certainly will PM him as well! Cheers!
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PMed back :) eds a great guy, hes more knowledgeable than me!
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Thanks!
They are actually the original decals from when it was resprayed a few years ago - you can't really see in these photos but the paintwork is actually chipped/scratched quite badly and decals are a bit knocked in places. One side of the seat tube was properly coming off, so I just removed the rest with my fingernail - that's why you can't see a logo on the right hand side yellow bit on the top pic. Unfortunately that means the top layer of lacquer has gone too, but it looks ok.
I'm torn between getting it restored properly (and getting some decals from Neil, he can supply) and just leaving it - the paint job (by C&G in Liverpool, as it says on the top tube) is beautiful, it's just a bit worn, and the chips/scratches and the 'PAINTWORK BY C&G Finishes' on the top tube give it character and reflect the history of the bike... Plus a respray would mean being without it for a while, which would be bad.
I'm just going to ride it for the moment :)
PORN
i hope mine comes out that nice
did you get decals from the man himself? im calling him on friday about a set
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I also really like the look of the radial. I just don't think i'd want to ride radial on the streets. Having never owned a radial wheel, i don't know just how they compare in strength to a 3X. But i do know that constantly riding over really shitty roads has an effect on my 3X wheels, which are pretty well built, and i wouldn't want to be continually truing them if they/the front was radial.
I have never had a problem with radial front, more of your weight on the back anyway
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I just picked up a lightweight road frame for £10, rusty, really light and propose to build it up as a beater to see how the frame is and then maybe restore if i like it. It's time I stopped riding one Raleigh record Sprint after another, goodbye trusty 501.
Here she is..
I have no idea what the frame is, it's very light though so I'm going with 531. Distinguishing features include, Haden lugs and an over sized cap on the seat stays, see next pic.
The seat stays are of the pregnant style, so thin at each end with the fattest section in the middle of the tube, you can just about see it in the next pic.
Next up are the forks, sloping lugless with Capagnolo dropouts to match the rear ones.
I've had a good old look around and I'm starting to get worried that she it another Raleigh, a lot of the Raleigh Professionals had Haden lugs and pregnant seat stays but slightly differnt forks, around 1984, but they didn't have cable guides on the top tube, but some of the tourers did. I'll know for sure if it's a Raleigh when I try to fit the heaset.
Here are the numbers form the frame just in case anyone recognises them as a give away.(first cjaracter on the BB is a W)
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radial lacing has absolutely no effect on strength for the front wheel. It's only an issue for the back wheel because there are rotational forces (torque) which are directed though the hub, to the rim. that's why you need some tangentially placed spokes, and you will only ever see a "half" radial (if anything) on the back.
that is also why you will never see a radially laced front wheel with disc brakes.... the braking torque is translated through the hub to the wheel and requires the spokes to be tangentially arranged.
if you don't arrange them tangentially in settings i described, you subject the hub flange, spokes, and rim holes to enormous forces as the hub tries to rotate within the rim.
The front wheel on a fixed gear, or on any bike with rim brakes, will never ever experience any torque through the hub. In these settings, there simply isn't any torque, or if there are brakes, it's directly through the rim and the hub is not part of the equation.
(for the picky, i know that the rim brakes aren't actually a 'torque')
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if you're still not convinced, a bike ive posted up here before had a radial laced front wheel
http://www.londonfgss.com/post751599-16176.htmlit was later involved in a car crash where the front (radial) wheel went straight into the side of a car at speed. The wheel was so strong infact that the frame went before the wheel did. The wheel is still dead straight by the way, not even the tiniest bit out of true. this was on velocity's 30mm deep v's with DT swiss spokes
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if you're still not convinced, a bike ive posted up here before had a radial laced front wheel
http://www.londonfgss.com/post751599-16176.htmlit was later involved in a car crash where the front (radial) wheel went straight into the side of a car at speed. The wheel was so strong infact that the frame went before the wheel did. The wheel is still dead straight by the way, not even the tiniest bit out of true. this was on velocity's 30mm deep v's with DT swiss spokes
http://www.londonfgss.com/post776771-157.htmlthats is so killer for the owner
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if you're still not convinced, a bike ive posted up here before had a radial laced front wheel
http://www.londonfgss.com/post751599-16176.htmlit was later involved in a car crash where the front (radial) wheel went straight into the side of a car at speed. The wheel was so strong infact that the frame went before the wheel did. The wheel is still dead straight by the way, not even the tiniest bit out of true. this was on velocity's 30mm deep v's with DT swiss spokes
http://www.londonfgss.com/post776771-157.htmlthat is very unfortunate but it doesn't 'prove' anything. The radial debate could go on forever between individuals (not me included) however every front end accident I have ever seen has always had the same damage in that part of the top tube. What else would you expect? The wheel to suddenly implode? 'because its radially laced'
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Though it kind of amused me there's no handle bars....but it is current projects thread after all!