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  • Cheers spenceey, I received the Bessa yesterday, and the case is perfect. My twin in Canada is well jealous. Perfect little prezzie to myself.

    Lovely little case isn't it? Best of luck with the camera mate, can't wait to see what you'll do with it!

  • I'm sorry to hear that.

    Night time photography:

    1. Long exposure – use low iso film such as iso 100 (as it helps avoid reciprocity failure).
    2. Flash – use whatever depending on how much of the scene you want lit, I use fill-in and 100 iso as this avoids overexposed areas that can't be brought back.
    3. Outside with streetlights etc. Then you want a fast film, maybe.

    Two out of three means I win.

    :)

    Doing it wrong........

    No higher than iso 6, yes, six
    Weighted tripod and air release
    Battery powered hair drier to stop condensation forming
    Beer, lots and lotsof beer and tunes :p

  • And er Brickman, what about those taking a new interest in film photography that land on this thread?

    Kodak's film division are now back in profit I've heard - good news for film companies, and good news for us.

  • Well they are still selling off chunks of their assets and patents. Latest chunk to go is the Gelatine plant.

    Could be an interesting year......

  • Double-X | D96

    My neck of the woods.

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    Ravenglass and Eskdale railway! used to go on that as a kid all the time!

  • Fly - Romney Hythe & Dymchurch.

  • Same gauge railways which explained it.

  • Fly - Romney Hythe & Dymchurch.

    Ah man I was so sure! thanks for the heads up.

  • saw this the other day, proper good

  • Took my cheapo Nettar folder out this afternoon for the maiden roll of film. It was actually a lot of fun guessing the range and trying to use my slr as a meter.

    I can see why the good models go for so much still

  • I'm on the hunt for either a 6x6 glassless neg carrier for my LPL c7700 enlarger or a piece of anti newton glass (or as a last resort, normal glass) for the top of my universal masking carrier.

    If you have a 6x6 carrier then I have cash waiting or could trade you my universal masking carrier (which currently has no top glass) for it. The universal carrier with std glass retails for about twice what the 6x6 does but as it's missing the top glass I'd consider them to have a more equal value. (correct me if you think I'm being unfair)

  • Mech vandal, I've got a6700 lpl and also after a6x6 carrier, they are pretty elusive but you can get them from ebay canada fit about 35, which is about 35 more than I paid for my entire darkroom lol.
    Have a35mm side carrier if anyone wants to swap? (incredibly entirely inlikly)

  • Mech vandal, I've got a6700 lpl and also after a6x6 carrier, they are pretty elusive but you can get them from ebay canada fit about 35, which is about 35 more than I paid for my entire darkroom lol.
    Have a35mm side carrier if anyone wants to swap? (incredibly entirely inlikly)

    I'm watching a Canadian one.
    I am also in the position of having procured most of my darkroom equipment for little or no cost so the idea of shelling out £70 for a new carrier from Firstcall etc is not really exciting me.
    I've also found the glass in a few places but the anti-newton stuff is spendy.

  • Anyone got much experience with photogram? I wanna go back to basic and do some photograms, it's been years since I did it. I wanna "capture" the sunrise using this method, my original thought was to leave the photo paper out in the garden before I go to bed (it's very dark out there once all neighbours have gone to bed) and collect the paper about a few mins after the sunrise begins etc, but my fear is that the moonlight and stars (if any) would already be bright enough to overly expose the paper during the night. I am planning to use the Kodak Ultra Endura colour paper.

    Plan B is to go leave the paper out just before sunrise and leave it there for a few mins, but I am not sure how long should that be.

    It's been done very successfully by the documentary duo Olli and Adam, they exposed their paper in board day light for 20 seconds and the result is beautiful.

    The only problem I am facing is the size I wanna make it (about 30" by a few meters) and the limited access I have to a darkroom to develop and fix the paper, so I don't have much room to play with it and see what happens.

    Any thought apart from telling me that I am mad?

  • Can you link to the Olli and Adam that have done this already? Had a quick google with no luck.

    I'd have thought the paper would expose too evenly.

  • I think this is the work ExTra was talking about http://choppedliver.info/the-day-nobody-died/

  • ^ that's right, sorry should have posted the link as well. There are 7 of them with different titles.

    I think the sunlight in Afghanistan is much more "interesting" as far as photogram is concerned, but I still wanna give it a go see what the British sunlight could do.

  • And I have just checked, I should address them as Adam and Olly.. oops.

  • Interesting results.

    Think the context of where the photograms were made is probably more important than the end result though.

  • ^ I agree, the context of what I have in mind is entirely different to theirs, photogram is just a way of expressing it. I have been thinking about what you said about the paper might be exposed too evenly, on one hand I agree but on the other hand, I wonder how "forgiving" our eyes actually are when it comes to compensating the differences of light. I guess the only way to find out is to try. Wish me luck! Got an important meeting with one of the most respected photographers in the academic world in this country in a couple of weeks time and really want to show him some results.

  • Good luck then!

    I like how their images are kinda graduated, I suppose if you get a slow enough emulsion then you could do similar.

  • I will be using exactly the same type of paper, not really by choice but the choice of RA-4 paper (colour photo paper) is somewhat limited nowadays. You either go for the size you want not type or the type and be limited by the size... There was a panic moment a couple of years ago when both Kodak and Fuji had decided to stop producing RA-4 paper for darkroom use, they have since started again but supplies have always been short since... what is wrong with all these people going for digital and digital only? Me not like!!! :-(

    Anyway, hopefully I will come back next week with some decent result.

  • Someone I know has a huge roll of black and white paper, it's been passed from person to person and no-one has yet come up with a good enough use for it.

    I can only imagine how expensive colour paper is.

  • You would be surprised. B&W paper could easily be more expensive than colour, the reason being there is only 1 type of colour paper, which is RA-4 or C-Type, but B&W is more complicated, there is RC, FB and within those, they have warm tone, mutil grade, etc etc.... so in a way, colour darkroom is simpler. And this is probably why B&W darkroom never really dies whereas colour darkroom is dying.

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