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There is also a tendency to look back through rose tinted glasses. Many aspects of society may be worse now but I am sure many are also better. Is there net gain? I don't know I can't be arsed to go to through the massive task of finding that out but it is easy to get carried away blaming today and saying yeaster year was so much better.
Teenagers have always been little shits. People have always wanted something for nothing. I am sure there is a problem now but it's real size and perceived size are no doubt different.
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I think I need to go and live on a desert island with a couple of fit birds, loads of records, few dogs and of course a bike. Bliss! :-)
TBH it's not a choice between a crime-ridden city and a desert island. There are plenty of nice places to live in this country, despite what the Daily Mail et al would like you to think...
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Funny you should say that......;-)
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Anyone found carrying a knife should have their hands cut-off. That will probably reduce stabbing
Doubt it
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There is also a tendency to look back through rose tinted glasses. Many aspects of society may be worse now but I am sure many are also better. Is there net gain? I don't know I can't be arsed to go to through the massive task of finding that out but it is easy to get carried away blaming today and saying yeaster year was so much better.
Teenagers have always been little shits. People have always wanted something for nothing. I am sure there is a problem now but it's real size and perceived size are no doubt different.
I agree with this a lot. I read somewhere that per capita, stabbings have remained steady for a long, long time. This is not some recent explosion, the media have just jumped all over it with glee.
What needs to change is the government's ability to deter people from taking what they want. If there was an effective detterent then numbers of crimes would fall. I can't honestly believe that the kids who do these things think that life in prison is better than what they have at the moment, yet any fool know that you're pretty fucking likely to end up inside if you stab someone to death. This does not seem to bother some enough to get over being chucked out of a shop rather than going back and murdering someone.
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There are many disaffected youths on London's streets, filled with rage, and rage gives birth to these attacks. What are they so angry about? ...family stuff...rage aimed at the inadequacy of Social Services and the authorities in general.
There's a complete misconception that 'stuff' bling/material goods can bring fulfillment...This only adds to the spiritual deficit. Get some stuff, need more, get some more, need more still - ad infinitum.
Thanks, that saved me a load of surreptitious typing during quieter moments at work :)
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Its alright, there's a new Youth Strategy being launched by Boris at the end of the week. I'm sure that'll sort it all out. Aren't London murder rates the same as they've been for the last decade (with the main variation being that they're perpetrated by, and on, younger people)?
ps. chuckling at the tags.
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Maybe that's true. Perhaps my perception of things getting worse is just that i've moved to a complete scummy shit hole, from somewhere relatively nice. I was really excited to move to London, but I fucking hate the place now.
If you stick with it for another 5 years, you'll discover 'friendly London' - it is out there, but difficult for relative newbs to find ;)
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There is also a tendency to look back through rose tinted glasses. Many aspects of society may be worse now but I am sure many are also better. Is there net gain? I don't know I can't be arsed to go to through the massive task of finding that out but it is easy to get carried away blaming today and saying yeaster year was so much better.
Teenagers have always been little shits. People have always wanted something for nothing. I am sure there is a problem now but it's real size and perceived size are no doubt different.
I totally agree with this. I was a kid in Edinburgh in the late 70's early 80's and knife culture was very much alive and well. Stanley knives coming out all over the place. Kids where always beating up/stabbing each other or worse. I remember an incident when i was a kid of some youths putting a kid down a hole in the road that was part of some road works and pouring concrete on top of him...thats fuckin crazy. In the 80's and early 90's the football casual scene in edinburgh was out of control...you couldn't get on a bus without gangs of about 15-20 teenagers 'taxing' your shit off you. If you were wearing nice trainers or a nice jacket you wouldn't be getting off the bus with them on. This was when you could still smoke on buses as well so you'd probably have 10 fags stubbed out on you while they were at it. So for me living in london now just seems fairly normal..if slightly less violent.
the major change ive noticed is the switch to youths attacking adults. These kids clearly dont have any respect for adults/authority...prob starting with their parents. I guess they figure well if I can walk over my parents I can walk over everyone else.
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I don't blame the parents, i blame the kids.
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Living in Japan, im amazed with how different everyone views crime, and the chances of bad stuff happening to you.
Basicly, outside of rreaalllly rough bits, there is no street crime at all, kids respect adults, and especially the police, who carry guns, and there is a policeman with a stick like this
standing outside every policestation (in Kobe anyway)... oh, and there is a police 'box' (little police station) every 5minutes or so. (Im not saying that living in a police state would sort out the hate and rage in England, but it might help to contain it)the only real crime is committed by the Yakuza, and they leave the general public alone (their activities seem to be tolerated by the police under this requirement), and they certainly leave Gaijin alone.
ive passed out on the subway in Osaka with mp3 player and a wallet full of cash, ive walked around cities at night, with a dlsr and tripod, and NEVER felt threatened..
which is why im not really missing the UK much at all... 2 court appearances in the past 2 years, after ive been assulted, both times the attacker recieved nothing more than a fine, while ive had my nose broken and still have a scar on my cheek, and i live in Surrey for gods sake, its not even bloody London.
Its only once you live abroad, that you realise the social breakdown that England is experiencing at the moment.
well, thats my 5yen on the issue
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See what you're saying V.U. This whole generation has a 'take, take, take' mentality. Like you say, they see it, they want it, they mug you and take it. That boils down to the whole debate that why don't these kids wanna work for it like everybody else. Easy option is to take it...
I think I need to go and live on a desert island with a couple of fit birds, loads of records, few dogs and of course a bike. Bliss! :-)