Banksy

Fuck you lot, I'M Banksy
Obvious.

Art is defined as having no use other than no exist as itself. Bansky's graffiti has the purpose of propagating his name, hence not art.

bollocks. that is one of the worst definitions of art i have ever heard! particularly when applied to a guy who keeps his true identity hidden...

one doesn't need to define art, per se.
the more that one trie to delineate it into a tradition or school, the more later artists will simply tear those walls down. do you think that dan flavin is art? is richard serra? both those artists create work that has a fairly specific function.
but even go back to your foundation course. is the last supper art? venus de milo? look at almost any renaissance high art painting or sculpture and you will find work that was created with the specific purpose of giving glory to the almighty.
besides, claiming that banksy's work is denied it's status as artwork simply because it creates a name for him is also useless. durer is perhaps the best known artist in the field of early printmaking and yet he also pioneered the name or brand of the artist.
and then how do you define function? something that does something? anything?

Obvious.

Objectvious...Banksy is alright. He's no Constable

and art ALWAYS serves a function (whether at the intention of the artist or not) within the art institution, as a desireable object or even as an investment. look at warhols work. he specifically removed the banal functionality of his chosen objects as a means of highlighting their continuing function in society.

chris and i had a good argument over this (almost) exact topic ages ago. here

one doesn't need to define art, per se.
the more that one trie to delineate it into a tradition or school, the more later artists will simply tear those walls down. do you think that dan flavin is art? is richard serra? both those artists create work that has a fairly specific function.
but even go back to your foundation course. is the last supper art? venus de milo? look at almost any renaissance high art painting or sculpture and you will find work that was created with the specific purpose of giving glory to the almighty.
besides, claiming that banksy's work is denied it's status as artwork simply because it creates a name for him is also useless. durer is perhaps the best known artist in the field of early printmaking and yet he also pioneered the name or brand of the artist.
and then how do you define function? something that does something? anything?

None of Flavin's work has a function.

how does it not have a function?
many of his works are monuments or memorials (see monument for v tatlin), which (i think obviously) serve a function in society.
also his work serves to (attempt) to alter ones understanding of the gallery space, and to (hopefully) make one reconsider ones role as a spectator both within his own work and in art in general.
it also made him a hell of a lot of money. and a name as an art critic

The riot coppers with smileys were wicked. And 'KEEP LEFT' on the bridge at Shoreditch Town Hall always had me chuckling, it was just after they'd changed the road system there, but seemed aimed at 'New Labour' too... blah. Banksy and Eine are OK by me.

chris and i had a good argument over this (almost) exact topic ages ago. here

From the first 8 or so posts, Chris is more correct. Your arguments are all over the place.

I've got a City and Guilds qualification in Experimental line and mark making, and one also in Observational life drawing so I think that I am qualified to respond.

Fuck Banksy. (good hustle when it comes to ripping off people who part money with the guy)

But un-fuck Tim Westwood, that guy is welcome at my home any day of the week.

"Cup of tea Timothy?"

"yeah that's big baby! Two sugars what's good?"

how does it not have a function?
many of his works are monuments or memorials (see monument for v tatlin), which (i think obviously) serve a function in society.
also his work serves to (attempt) to alter ones understanding of the gallery space, and to (hopefully) make one reconsider ones role as a spectator both within his own work and in art in general.
it also made him a hell of a lot of money. and a name as an art critic

It has no function other than to exist i.e Art. An object is, well, objective within purpose.

If an object provokes a thought or an action that's not a function; merely an interpretation by a subjective individual.

I've got a City and Guilds qualification in Experimental line and mark making, and one also in Observational life drawing so I think that I am qualified to respond.

Fuck Banksy. (good hustle when it comes to ripping off people who part money with the guy)

But un-fuck Tim Westwood, that guy is welcome at my home any day of the week.

"Cup of tea Timothy?"

"yeah that's big baby! Two sugars what's good?"

hahahaha, A qualification hey.

its strikes me as fitting that he was a public school boy, his art is pretentious wank suited to upper middle class polotics

its strikes me as fitting that he was a public school boy, his art is pretentious wank suited to upper middle class polotics

+1

fine, however you want to define function.
but you defined it to fit banksy outside it's parameters.

hahahaha, A qualification hey.

Gods honest, I got them whilst doing my art foundation year.

I'm an artist baby!

What is it with people and 'defining' art? Schoolboy error.

It's just throwing groundless subjectivity at groundless subjectivity.

I see art as about asking questions, or about prompting the act of asking questions in the viewer. I think like that because i find it helpful.

Hassan i think is using the word function in a metaphorical sense rather than the literal sense.

+1, ad infinitum

and yes, thanks for the clarification asm.

fine, however you want to define function.
but you defined it to fit banksy outside it's parameters.

That is not my definition of function.

It is defined before, namely without reference to, Banksy.

all art is the meaningless expression of the ego of the artist. it should be judged by aesthetics, alone, and not any perceived "message". if the artist really had something important to say they would write a polemic

hey chris

Hassan i think is using the word function in a metaphorical sense rather than the literal sense.

A metaphorical function. hehe. yeah.

hey chris

hi,

lets do the art pub thing this week...

i'm up for it, where/when?