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• #27
they are aliums. which are basically a commuter/touring pedal.
ataks have a more open pedal body to shed mud for MTB'ing
Z's have a bigger platform also for mtb."Or are they the one's you can adjust yourself?"
don't know what you mean by this? some of the ataks like the XS model have a 3 position tension adjustment. it doesn't do much and is redundant imho. -
• #28
the XS model has float, though, right? i have been trying out aliums, but find the lack of float is affecting my right foot, which naturally turns outwards.
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• #29
Pigeon-toed?
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• #30
orange peel?
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• #31
the XS model has float, though, right? i have been trying out aliums, but find the lack of float is affecting my right foot, which naturally turns outwards.
they all have float (the same amount on all i think?) the xs just has adjustable tension on the spring which doesn't really do that much. you probably need to rotate the cleat a bit to fit your foots natural angle.
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• #32
according to the specs etc i have read online ( wiggle), the Aliums are not advertised with float, but the higher up models are?
i guess they do have a bit of float, the main issue is i can't rotate the cleat - it always stays straight. on my other cleats it has been possible to rotate, but there's no play in the Time cleat. -
• #33
"Or are they the one's you can adjust yourself?"
don't know what you mean by this? some of the ataks like the XS model have a 3 position tension adjustment. it doesn't do much and is redundant imho.That's what I meant, I thought these had a tension adjustment. Thanks for the imput.
^ boring thread revival response ^
I'll get me coat....
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• #34
The Aliums should allow you to rotate you feet +/- 5 degrees and have a sideways float of 6 mm. I guess it must have something to do with adjusting the cleats and pedals. You should be able to loosen the tension of the springs, which should allow you to create a bit more float.
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• #35
Those Aliums pictured above are quite an old model - i have the new ones,they have the atac system- great pedal, plenty of float:
ATAC pedals are truly a classic, a budget-minded system that offers the same ATAC easy entry and exit and biomechanical float and rotation as top-end Time products. With ATAC, foot retention is independent of spring tension. That means you can crank down the binding mechanism without worry that you won't be able to release. ± 5° of angular float paired with ± 3 mm of lateral float means they're knee friendly, too!
The same technology as the ATAC Carbon at an economical price: durable aluminum body, reliable entry and release in mud and all conditions and TIME's angular float for proper biomechanics.Features:
• Aluminum body Steel axle
• Angular float for proper biomechanics
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• #36
hmm.
maybe it's something to do with my shoes, as i can't rotate the wee cleat even a bit.
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• #37
hmm.
maybe it's something to do with my shoes, as i can't rotate the wee cleat even a bit.
Try cutting away some tread with a scalpel. Click the shoe into the pedal (whilst not wearing it), and observe what's happening.
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• #38
Try cutting away some tread with a scalpel. Click the shoe into the pedal (whilst not wearing it), and observe what's happening.
+1, stick the shoe onto the pedal (without your foot in it) turn the shoe over and look at it a little bit then wiggle and repeat
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• #39
Try cutting away some tread with a scalpel. Click the shoe into the pedal (whilst not wearing it), and observe what's happening.
+1, stick the shoe onto the pedal (without your foot in it) turn the shoe over and look at it a little bit then wiggle and repeat
Is there a fucking echo in here, or what?
Pay attention, people - alcohol abuse can cause debilitating amnesias.
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• #40
no, it's not a tread issue, the holes in the cleats for the bolt head don't allow any movement, like they do on other cleats.
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• #41
You can still make minor adjustments to cleat fitting, both fore & aft, and enough rotation to compensate for foot alignment issues.
Any cleat that moves is not tightened up enough, and will try to kill you :S
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• #42
PS. If they're new, wait a few weeks, or sit on your bike and clip in and out about 100 times, and they'll feel more floaty.
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• #43
@bumpf, hence the
repeat
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• #44
You can still make minor adjustments to cleat fitting, both fore & aft, and enough rotation to compensate for foot alignment issues.
Any cleat that moves is not tightened up enough, and will try to kill you :S
i'll have another look..
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• #45
I thought you said they were Time?
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• #46
i think you need a lie down..
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• #47
or put your cleats on the right way around
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• #48
i think you need a lie down..
I was lying down when I typed that.
I think you need to just give up cycling as a bad lot.
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• #49
I've been struggling to clip into my left atac roc. Found the left pedal was on the middle tension setting. As stated, tension settings don't make alot of difference to release, but surprised me how it changed clip in.
no, it's not a tread issue, the holes in the cleats for the bolt head don't allow any movement, like they do on other cleats.
i'll have another look, but i can't see how it'll happen.True enough. There's no facility for adjustment in the cleat itself, unlike spd's.The cleat should fasten to a steel plate in the sole, this should rattle around in the shoe with no cleat fitted. Here's where you get the facility for adjustment, if that makes any sense at all.
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• #50
yes, that's the thing.
Well looking at the instructions sheet in the bag with the cleats it says;
"ATAC - ALIUM - CYCLO"
So I'd think so but I'm no expert.