Bike Anti-Porn - When Things Go Wrong

Is it open minded of you then to criticise every aspect of a bike including its geometry without ever having ridden one?

let us unite

Sad thing is, that Unipack probably (or definitely) has a higher BB than my Fillmore.

the unipack geometry is based on another bike with a few tweak I think.

best way to keep the cost down, nick geo from another bike, althought morally wrong of course, did I remember correctly that another company nicked the BMW Gangsta's geo for their own bike? I can't remember which one thought.

Is it open minded of you then to criticise every aspect of a bike including its geometry without ever having ridden one?

"Like i say...if you dislike it based purely on appearance then fair enough...but to dislike a bike so strongly that you've never even ridden shows a very closed minded attitude in my opinion"
i dislike the geometry based purely on looking at it, fair enough?
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the unipack geometry is based on another bike with a few tweak I think.

best way to keep the cost down, nick geo from another bike, althought morally wrong of course, did I remember correctly that another company nicked the BMW Gangsta's geo for their own bike? I can't remember which one thought.

Makes sense... it is a pretty generic-looking bike. And to be fair, the Unipack's don't really look bad at all.

Makes sense... it is a pretty generic-looking bike. And to be fair, the Unipack's don't really look bad at all.

for the £$ its not a rip off, but the first time you take the wheel to be trued (ie the following day after purchase) you will see where all the corners have been cut, quality is low on their list of priority.. Still amazed they turn a profit though..
For the OTP customers out there what do people recommend and what do people avoid?
i find it hard but i did find myself rating the Fuji to a friends friend cos they were deadly serious about an OTP :( They got it, 3 months in, they want a new paint-job, new wheels, new pedals, new bars... Dont buy off the peg is my reluctant but honest advice to people, buy a frame you can afford and you like the look of, then build up with parts you can choose, the trick is don't rush it,

unipacks looks cheap.. mainly because they are

did I remember correctly that another company nicked the BMW Gangsta's geo for their own bike? I can't remember which one thought.

A forum member wanted to get his own frame made on the cheap by some guy and basically sent him the link to the actual BMW specs off the website to copy.

You can't call dibs on actual geometry though....otherwise there would have been about 2 MTB companies throughout the whole of the 90's, seeing as 71, 73 were the only numbers anyone used. :)

Another company decided to nick the Milwaukee's Bruiser geometry and use it on their 'airwalk' bike not long ago (as an example), as some shop in LA send the Milwaukee's geometry sheets to Airwalk and ask them to build it**; **

http://prollyisnotprobably.com/2009/06/airwalk_fixed_gears.php

the "Airwalk" trick bike.

the Milwaukee Bruiser.

for the £$ its not a rip off, but the first time you take the wheel to be trued (ie the following day after purchase) you will see where all the corners have been cut, quality is low on their list of priority.. Still amazed they turn a profit though..
For the OTP customers out there what do people recommend and what do people avoid?
i find it hard but i did find myself rating the Fuji to a friends friend cos they were deadly serious about an OTP :( They got it, 3 months in, they want a new paint-job, new wheels, new pedals, new bars... Dont buy off the peg is my reluctant but honest advice to people, buy a frame you can afford and you like the look of, then build up with parts you can choose, the trick is don't rush it,

I bought an OTP (LeMond Fillmore) b/c I wanted a bike I could ride immediately. I didn't have the money to build a bike. I could've bought something like a Bob Jackson frame (for a little less than my bike), but it would've taken me months to build it up. Months not riding. So I've made changes over time to my bike. I'll probably ride this one for a few more years and then get something custome, like a Mercian, Orlwoski, or Bob Jackson.

nice words man.
a Ride Away Ride was what you needed. :)

Bicycle speed record 152mph ffs!

thats just comical, the front brake haha

Pengy-esque clearance on that second bike's rear wheel!

and front, look like MTB wheel on a frame designed for 27" wheels.

how utterly daft.

I think I could use the second one.

Me too, actucally, I have no front wheel on at the moment!

born to fail

Is it just me that's getting fucking tired of people constantly going on about how much they hate the BMWs?
Only slightly less annoying is the 5page rant that Scott not Scot goes into whenever anyone voices an even slightly negative opinion of one.
Plus, it's more like 10 pages when it's your own bike they are dissing Scott.
Can everycunt no just just give it a fucking rest on the BMWs, some of you love em some of you hate em, most of us couldnt give a flying fuck.
Rant over.

it's just you.
people have the right to diss whatever bikes they like otherwise there is no anti porn thread
only polite murmurs of 'nice unipak', 'hmm yes a lovely cream bob jackson, never seen one like that before' or 'a purple spok on some hideous slack angled conversion with a low bb, now that is nice'.

there's something i really like about this. i think it's cool.

A rant or harangue is a speech or text that does not present a well-researched and calm argument; rather, it is typically an attack on an idea, a person or an institution, and very often lacks proven claims.

Sorry Bud...but my 'rants' are always well researched and calm.
You seem to forget that almost everyone who slags Brooklyns have never actually ridden them...i on the other hand have been riding them for about 7yrs, and personally know the owner of the company...i'd say that puts me in a better position to present a well researched and calm argument than most.

If you couldn't give a flying fuck, why do you keep reading the 'rants' ?
Up the stakes or get off the fucking pot!

Just my 'opinion' like!
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what's the name of the owner again?