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• #30752
Reddit constantly delivers.
Any idea what on earth is going on with the geometry on this frame?
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• #30753
^ What's your issue with it specifically? The bars are high and the saddle is low, which makes it look a bit screwy. The rear wheel is quite a long way forward, which makes the clearance really tight for a road bike. I don't think the forks are orginal either, but the clearance looks ok.
I'm not sure that snowflake spoke lacing is a good idea on a back wheel, though.
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• #30754
^ What's your issue with it specifically? The bars are high and the saddle is low, which makes it look a bit screwy. The rear wheel is quite a long way forward, which makes the clearance really tight for a road bike. I don't think the forks are orginal either, but the clearance looks ok.
I'm not sure that snowflake spoke lacing is a good idea on a back wheel, though.
- The whole angles of the tubing look like it's leaning back.
- The BB is so low the pedals are practically touching the ground.
- The rear clearance is outrageously close and doesn't look like the wheel would go back any further than about 3mm.
The OP on reddit spent a great deal of time restoring and repainting this, which seems like a potential waste of time as the frame appears to be completely borked.
- The whole angles of the tubing look like it's leaning back.
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• #30755
- The whole angles of the tubing look like it's leaning back.
- The BB is so low the pedals are practically touching the ground.
- The rear clearance is outrageously close and doesn't look like the wheel would go back any further than about 3mm.
The OP on reddit spent a great deal of time restoring and repainting this, which seems like a potential waste of time as the frame appears to be completely borked.
Well the TT looks pretty parallel to a line between the axles i.e., horizontal. The pedal does look low, but it is on top of a brick and the bike is stood in long grass on what looks like uneven ground so there may be more clearance than appears. You can also see black behind the rear track nut, so you could move the wheel back by at least the width of a track nut flange/washer (which really needs to happen because the chain is quite slack).
To my eye it looks like the wheels are almost too big, but that would put the BB even closer to the ground.
Edit: the bike is actually leaning back in the picture. A horizontal line drawn from the front axle hits the top of the triangle cut-out in the rear drop-out.
- The whole angles of the tubing look like it's leaning back.
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• #30756
May be inspired/is an old path racer, grass track. Which explains the slack angles/low saddle...but that means that fork should go as there were no such forks in that era.
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• #30757
^this. The original fork more than likely had a great axle to crown length that the newer one fitted.
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• #30759
^ Holy Cow it's like being locked in a room with clashing wallpapers
I may be wrong re blue frame...grass track usually had a bit more clearance at the back due to...well grass. Mud n shit. But such angles weren't unusual. Australian old path racers/track frames were often unusually long with TT being 11/2 inch longer than seat tubes and still a very low saddle.
Well no issues with toe overlap at least!
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• #30760
Kill it with fire
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• #30761
110k on ebayhttp://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&item=161100121069&mpt=9756016.
wow
what would you be buying here, a piece of art or a bike?
as urban artists go, i didn't think Futura's work was worth that much, it is a hirst rip off after all, in comparison to the 15,000 the stash and futura master pista frames reached, even with the provenance, seems astronomically expensive -
• #30762
It looks like he's just scribbled all over the wheels. I could do that for £5
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• #30763
Yeah, the wheels are fucking horrible. It's amazing how some designers think that if they just do something a bit zany and off the wall it makes a component desirable.
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• #30764
i thought futura would have been more an artist, rather than a designer, no?
I know he was involved with a clothes range, and I have a few nosferatu pieces
he also did album artwork, for the clash amongst others
he used to be a courier, hence the link to the pista's
the find was probably the highest yielding ever, i think around 35 master pistas and a few roadies,in storage,
la carrera managed to get stash and futura involved, the total sales must have exceeded 300,000 dollars -
• #30765
Kill it with fire
I actually like it. It's over the top, but it's awesome.
The frame reminds me a bit of Warhol's lips painting and the wheels are more Keith Haring.
Just not worth 110k
http://www.warhol.org/uploadedImages/Warhol_Site/Warhol/Content/Warhol_Artwork/1998.1.1466.jpg
http://rfc.museum/images/stories/BtC/1280x1024/AAO_019_Keith_Haring_Untitled_1982.jpgAnd for 110k at least put some decent tires on it :S
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• #30766
haring had a cinelli mtb, wonder if he painted it?
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• #30767
anti wheels
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meant to have been done by him in 87 -
• #30768
^ Seen that before and quite like it...the graphic design ("art") works with the frame.
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• #30770
http://31.media.tumblr.com/feecfcf77e9f7a961a46e9500ac98e68/tumblr_mq7wf9MB591qgtgw1o1_1280.jpg
Condition of the anodising on the wheel says the brake's only for legality.
Different saddle, driveside pic and it's not that bad.
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• #30771
Not the most anti in the world, but anti enough, given the price that will be paid for it.
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• #30772
mechanical:
the frame geometry, fork, tie wraps as cable holders. saddle, stem, bar tape and bar plugs belong in anti.
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• #30773
https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/1276538_10151620940053144_526810430_o.jpg
Er. The paint porn thread may have some fans for it, but not for me.
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• #30774
Saarf, don't look at @colnagoworld right now.
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• #30775
snakes alive /
Royal Society for the Protection of Bike + Bike Pond? ;)