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• #15052
probably some major internal cable housing thingy, can kind see it at the bottom of his shorts in the back and where the tape ends by the stem
why even bother, internal cables are such a pain in the ass to do
Hiden where? Under the bar tape that isn't there? So inside the bars, through the hollow stem and through the frame all the way?
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• #15053
There are none. Look at the top of the hoods. Compensating for all that useless heavy tubing hanging off it.
Agree.Can't see the point with those frames.Unless they were made to look different.
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• #15054
why even bother, internal cables are such a pain in the ass to do
Cables inside the bars, exit next to the stem. That's how we rolled in the 1980s, and it wasn't very hard to do. Whether the aerodynamic improvement was of any significance when we also had shallow rims and 28 spokes even in our 'best' wheels is moot.
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• #15055
Agree.Can't see the point with those frames.Unless they were made to look different.
super short wheel base and supposed to be stiffer
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• #15056
mdcc tester do you remember the Alf Engers TT bikes he rode during the 70's.Great machines.
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• #15057
super short wheel base and supposed to be stiffer
Why is that any use on a 25 miler?
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• #15058
supposed to be stiffer
Supposed to be, and they probably are stiffer than a frame made with the normal number of the same guage tubes. Of course, you could make something even stiffer and lighter by building a conventional frame from slightly over sized tubes, but we would have to wait some 50 years between the invention of the 'Flying Gate' and the ubiquitous use of oversized tubes.
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• #15059
ubiquitous use of oversized tubes.
"Ubiquitous"? I'm not seeing a lot of oversized steel on the roads?
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• #15060
Ubiquitous for racing, whether it's steel, aluminium or carbon. You probably do see a lot of oversized steel, you've just got used to the big tubes and don't recognise them as oversized. Classic tubes set is 1" top tube and 1⅛" seat tube and down tube, 1" steerer in a 1¼" head tube. Anything with a 1⅛" steerer is likely to be ⅛" oversize on all the other tubes, except the seat tube.
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• #15061
Why is that any use on a 25 miler?
dunno ask the bloke who designed it
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• #15062
Ubiquitous for racing, whether it's steel, aluminium or carbon. You probably do see a lot of oversized steel, you've just got used to the big tubes and don't recognise them as oversized. Classic tubes set is 1" top tube and 1⅛" seat tube and down tube, 1" steerer in a 1¼" head tube. Anything with a 1⅛" steerer is likely to be ⅛" oversize on all the other tubes, except the seat tube.
Yeah, so that "undersized" one would be my Cinelli squadra coursa then for example. Never felt the need to bolt a load more tube on that to make it work. Oh and my Gazelle. And me Raleigh. And me Dawes.
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• #15063
Yeah, so that "undersized" one would be my Cinelli squadra coursa then for example. Never felt the need to bolt a load more tube on that to make it work. Oh and my Gazelle. And me Raleigh. And me Dawes.
Yes, there are millions of old frames with classic tube sizes which work just fine, even with the paper thin 753 tubes.
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• #15064
Hiden where? Under the bar tape that isn't there? So inside the bars, through the hollow stem and through the frame all the way?
you can se cables popping out around the stem if you look closely....
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• #15065
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• #15066
yikes, i know some one making a bamboo bike, i really dont get why, it looks horrid
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• #15067
Oof the last two bikes on the previous page are really really bad.
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• #15068
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• #15069
not to bad at all
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• #15070
apart from being hideous
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• #15071
+1 haha
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• #15072
apart from saddle angle its easily fixed by lowering screen saturation to 0.
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• #15073
Why do people find this sort of thing necessary?
Caption:
Problem Solving:
Fixed gear track bike…The frame, seat and integrated handlebar stem form a single, uninterrupted line from front to back. Designed to be hand built using traditional cro-mo steel tubing and fillet brazing.
This shit frame creates more problems than it solves pal.
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• #15074
Also:
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• #15075
That frame is frome a cheap decatholon town bike. So I think its a pretty fun cruiser bike all in all. I wouldnt have it fixed though.
probably some major internal cable housing thingy, can kind see it at the bottom of his shorts in the back and where the tape ends by the stem
why even bother, internal cables are such a pain in the ass to do