Burls titanium fixed

why is titanium fork is rarely seen on titanium bike? is it simply too expensive or diffcuilt to produce?

I spoke to burls about it and he said ti forks are alright, but carbon is nicer because ti is too flexy

Hi Crane.

I just received one of these babies. I it is sweet! I have a Fuji Track Pro that I love the geometry of and sent Justin the details of that, which were then copied, taking into account the length and rake of the Easton fork I've put in.

It seems plenty stiff so far, but I haven't had a proper go at it yet and still waiting on some new wheels...

ye i looked at the FTP when thinking about ideas for the frame

Crane, that build is going to be pure bike porn

Titanium's only as light as aluminium, give or take. Carbon's still the lightweight winner.

Frame design and wheelset would be the most 'rocketful' aspects.

If titanium had to be crowned king of any one attribute of bicycles, it would be Comfort and longevity.

Not so much fixed as enhanced :)

our two chief weapons are Comfort, Longevity and Shininess - our THREE weapons are..

Enigma do a steel single-speed frame now, I'm wondering if they'll do a custom Ti version of it.

http://www.enigmabikes.com/road-bikes/info_18.html

I'm soooooo tempted by the Planet-X Ti sportive.

They now have both sram red and Dura ace builds for £1999.
If I was to be honest about it (ie stepped away from the uber stiff italian plastic race machines), it would probably be the perfect road bike for me. Should be a nice light and comfy ride with Dura ace groupo, PX model B wheels, 25mm tyres, and Zipp contour bars.

Do it. Titanium is the finest frame material known to man. It's ideal for damper, saltier climes too.

I'm soooooo tempted by the Planet-X Ti sportive.

Yep, me too. Do it. It's a gorgeous bike and ideal for year round use on salty roads.

It's ideal for damper, saltier climes too.

filth

our two chief weapons are Comfort, Longevity and Shininess - .

titanium frames don't last any longer than any other frame. they seem to be prone to cracking just as much if not more so than steel. and just because it's an expensive material doesn't mean it will turn into a good handling/riding bike.
for the price of a mid-low quality ti frame that's likely to be plain gauge i would rather have a premium triple/double butted steel frame. not forgetting it's easier to repair a steel frame.
wouldn't mind a high end butted ti frame but they are twice the price which would fund top end steel and some uber bling wheels negating any weight saving of the frame material.

ti is old hat 953 is where the smart money is.

:-)

You've obviously never ridden a ti frame Mr Smyth. Steel doesn't compare, and I love steel frames.

The planet-X is double butted and made by Lynsky. I dont think I've ever seen a plain gauge Ti bike.

I think the longevity rep comes from it being almost as forgiving to flex as steel (doesnt have the issues associated with alu), but without the corrosion worries. So I dont think people would claim it to be more durable physicaly than steel, just chemicaly so.

The main advantages of Ti is well illustrated by its popularity in the high end sportive/audax market, comfort and weather resiliance are the main concerns.

You've obviously never ridden a ti frame Mr Smyth. Steel doesn't compare, and I love steel frames.

on the contrary, perhaps you have never ridden a well built modern steel frame.

:-)

The planet-X is double butted and made by Lynsky. I dont think I've ever seen a plain gauge Ti bike.

just about all sub £1k frames are plain gauge. pipedream/setavento/enigma/van-nicholas/burls etc

the Planet X does seem like incredible value. £2k won't generally buy even Ultegra on a mid-range carbon frame.

why is titanium fork is rarely seen on titanium bike? is it simply too expensive or diffcuilt to produce?

So nice.

just about all sub £1k frames are plain gauge. pipedream/setavento/enigma/van-nicholas/burls etc

That sounds like madness.

How can the Ti propertise be properly explioted without the use of butting?
Dont the tubes need to be relatively thick at the wields?

Just checked the Van Nic site, and out of the four road bikes, only the top-of-the-line Zephr mentions butted tubing. Well you live and learn.

Ti is difficult to cold work. you can't treat it the same way as steel. butting is time consuming and expensive.

I figured butting would difficult compared to steel, I just assumed the benefits and raw material costs warranted it.

assume makes an ass out of U and Me.

Absolutly no advantage over a quality alu stem. Pure bike jewlery.

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corrrr, that's lovely.

Nice one XXXIV but personally I'm not a fan of the compact geometry.