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  • Take matters into your own hands?


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  • You could fit the shifter to its own mount on the bar so you don't need to move the brake.

    Or get sram axs

  • Proper wet out on the trails today @ Swinley forest


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  • It was lovely this afternoon in the west of Scotland. Dryish trails, 5 C and a hint of sun in the woods. Didn't even get wet feet.

  • No, I think it's the other way. I have long fingers/thumbs and so they have to be moved way back to get to the shifter. It's the tendon thing way back at my inside wrist that's sore.

  • I did that already - it's on a Wolf Tooth separate mount. But the brake lever still stops me moving it further around. Next attempt is to move the brake levers upwards to get more space to rotate the thumb shifter further under the bars, away from my thumb, so that my thumb doesn't have to be brough so far back to trigger it.

    I was tempted by SRAM AXS but it's failed on Justinas a couple of times and Lachlan in his TD. It's just not reliable enough for my liking and I'm not fast enough to make do without it.

    Maybe I'm doing something stupid. Post pics of your shifter positions...

  • Has it failed on justinas or has justinas failed?

    I've not had a single issue with mine.

  • I can't remember, I was going to have a look at the recap to find out exactly what the issue was but he had issues in TD and AMR and Lachland had issues during his TD.

    Counterpoint, I watched Joe Nations TD video and he ran SRAM and I don't think he had any issues, although he did buy a new charger for it during TD.

  • Okay, there's another bolt I can use to move the shifter so I'm going to try it closer rather than further away. I was going by the logic that if it was further away I'd be using a longer lever to operate it so less force required. It felt ok but meant I couldn't use the front trigger shifter so easily.

  • "Justinas also had to backtrack and hitch a ride to replace a failed battery charger earlier on in the race. He also rode with a defunct derailleur that had to be shifted by hand for a hundreds of miles"

    Joe Nation had an issue with one of his batteries
    https://youtu.be/K_Q3rpjabbo?si=iDQJODgnR47zX5Ng&t=578

    look uh also at that same bike shop I uh
    bought a secondary access charger mine
    started to play out one of my batteries
    stopped working so I was very nervous
    you ran out of gears then you're single
    speed and I can't handle that so I end
    up investing in a spare charger and
    another spare battery
    um
    but made it through fine and I didn't
    actually need the spare charger but
    better to be safe

    https://youtu.be/ZYRKjKsDgyQ?si=dW94ke4igQ207rOS&t=2728

    The derailers shit itself
    uh so and it's electronic so there nothing I can do about
    Let me try the app
    My derailer is completely died and
    everything I can do to uh fix it
    but W respond anything so now single
    speeding in a huge gear trying to get to Cuba

    All in the same year, a very wet one, so maybe water-proofing ain't great and you live in Spain where there isn't any water. :)

    The AMR issue was his own fault...

    https://youtu.be/7x5jdG1tBXE?si=I5QiCkxO4fp7T2XV&t=935

    15:31
    p.m. drus got a bit of a gap on yustinus I think yustinus had to stop he did have a few issues with his axis shifting as per usual um this time he forgot to take his spare battery so he had to stop and top them up every now and again

  • Anecdotal tho init. My old boss scratched from an ultra when his XT Di2 RD failed spontaneously, he also had 2 di2 batteries fail, as well as several wires in the 2 years I was working with him. Plus 2 cranks that came apart but that's well known about now.

  • Of course it's anecdotal. I don't work in their returns department. It's also relatively easy to shit on SRAM because hardly anyone runs Di2 on MTB in these events. But what other info would you base it on? (FYI: Di2 wire failures are 99.9% installation error and I have two sets of Shimano Death Cranks going strong)

    SRAM would be a "better" choice for me because my frame isn't Di2 compatible. But counter to that I know Di2 pretty well and have chargers/spares etc. If I could get all the Di2 gubbins up front, in the steerer or something, then I'd just have a single wire heading to the RD that could be taped under the chainstay.

  • Dunno but Skinny gives a positive anecdote and he's not exactly a weekend nodder, so, like, balance. Maybe see if you can test/try it?

  • I did point out it's likely much drier in general where he's riding vs. TD. I did also initially think Joe Nation had no issues or issues with only a charger but it was actually a battery. Also, I picked these because they're high placing racers and people were paying attention or documenting their issues. There could be 200 riders finishing TD with no SRAM issues but if I don't know about it...

    "Oh, and my son-in-law did the Tour Divide this past June riding 2660 miles on the eastern divide of the Rocky Mts and his SRAM X01 performed flawlessly."
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_V_ulE04sfc

  • And that isn’t even the new Transmission group set which is much more robust.

  • XT Di2 RD

    I thought this RD would on work on e-bike setups? Can you run this "normally"?

    http://rambleur.com/ramblings/2018/7/26/tour-divide-what-worked-what-didnt

    "I had thousands of miles aboard Di2 drivetrain before I headed to Banff and I’ve never had issues with the electronics. I know that some are hesitant to make the leap to electronic shifting. Sure, it is expensive. But I've had far fewer issues with it than I have with cable actuated shifting. In the case of Di2, there are no cables that need replacing. It shifts consistently in all conditions and does so while also saving my wrists and fingers from the possibility of overuse injuries from the thousands of shifts one performs during Tour Divide.

    I ran a 2x11 setup using an older 10-speed era XTR Race crank with 42/30 chainrings. On the back I used an XTR 11-40 cassette. I set the system up using Shimano's SynchroShift. I only told the system whether I wanted a harder or an easier gear and it would then shift the front and rear derailleurs according to a pattern that I customized using E-Tube software. So I could shift in both directions, across the drivetrain's entire range, using either hand. This is especially convenient while eating, drinking, or putting on clothes. I also added a set of shifter to my aerobars so that I could stay in them and shift without moving. The shifting is so good that I'm ruined. It's hard to go back to mechanical shifting of even the highest quality."

    https://bikepacking.com/gear/electronic-shifting-reliability-video/

  • Was 11s. Also, idk, wasn't my bike

  • Cheaper to get therapy, so you don't feel the need to ride all these ultra events

  • I would just end up doing something else to excess. Maybe booze, maybe gym training or something. End of the day something will cost me a fortune and prematurely end my life. :)

    Also, my thumb issues persist, even on shorter rides, not just the stupid long ones.

  • Heroin. Choose life etc.

  • I don't even own a guitar.

  • Cheap little bike here seems like a good starter for someone
    https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/391875

  • A friend of mine with a voracious (and quite frankly, disturbing) sexual appetite and exhaustive collection of 1970s porn also just happens to run the world's only Museum d'SRAM and has generously coughed up this little bzzt bzzt beauty. Obviously I will never be allowed back to the off-the-hook Shimano christmas parties but maybe my thumb will be a little bit less fuxxored after rides? Let's see how it shits, sorry, shifts in the wild....


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