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  • You're new here, aren't you?
    Hipsters don't post on here regularly - apart from those, who dress like hipsters ironically.

    that random comma really threw off how I read that sentence.

  • That comma works for me...

    awaits grammar police

    Just spotted half the forum in the Brockwell Park/Herne Hill area... What a day...

  • I think someone DAS'd me earlier, but I ignored them because I was on gears.
    #feelingsuperior

  • Just spotted half the forum in the Brockwell Park/Herne Hill area... What a day...

    Just done an hour of pootling in those very environs. The closest I got to bikey spotting/being spotted was trackstanding in front of a Condor van at some traffic lights.
    Hrumph :(

  • that random comma really threw off how I read that sentence.

    It's not random. Read it in Peter O'Toole's voice and you will see.

  • Jack Bruce. At his home in Colchester. Lovely afternoon.

  • It's not random. Read it in Peter O'Toole's voice and you will see.

    OK, so I slurred a bit, dropped a bon-mot or two and astounded all with my repartee, only to find the comma was still in the wrong, place darling.

  • comma is in the right place, you're doing it wrong.

    (it makes perfect sense to me)

  • I beg, to differ

  • OK, so I slurred a bit, dropped a bon-mot or two and astounded all with my repartee, only to find the comma was still in the wrong, place darling.

    It's a right place as you can easily split the sentence in that place. Try it at home - replace *those *and who with a noun "hipster". In my language, which operates on latin grammar, it makes perfect sense.

  • Gotcha. Anyway, I've spotted nobody.

  • You're new here, aren't you?
    Hipsters don't post on here regularly - apart from hipster, hipster dress like hipsters ironically.

    like this?

  • I never read the original post, was just being contrary. I feel I may have picked the wrong side.

  • like this?

    Not enough profanities.

  • Spotted: TheorySwine getting served grammatically by a Polish emigre... Ouchers... :S

  • You're new here, aren't you?
    Hipsters don't post on here regularly - apart from those, who dress like hipsters ironically.

    that random comma really threw off how I read that sentence.

    That comma works for me...

    awaits grammar police

    Just spotted half the forum in the Brockwell Park/Herne Hill area... What a day...

    It's not random. Read it in Peter O'Toole's voice and you will see.

    OK, so I slurred a bit, dropped a bon-mot or two and astounded all with my repartee, only to find the comma was still in the wrong, place darling.

    comma is in the right place, you're doing it wrong.

    (it makes perfect sense to me)

    I beg, to differ

    It's a right place as you can easily split the sentence in that place. Try it at home - replace *those *and who with a noun "hipster". In my language, which operates on latin grammar, it makes perfect sense.

    Gotcha. Anyway, I've spotted nobody.

    I never read the original post, was just being contrary. I feel I may have picked the wrong side.

    Spotted: TheorySwine getting served grammatically by a Polish emigre... Ouchers... :S

    I love these opportunities for a decent multi-quote. :)

    TheorySwine is right, of course. It isn't possible to separate that relative clause by a comma given his evidently intended meaning (it makes no sense if you do). With a comma, it is a non-restrictive relative clause, without it, it is restrictive.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_relative_clauses#Restrictive_or_non-restrictive

    There is a difference in meaning if you set a comma: 'those, who' tells us something about specific people (which EEI clearly doesn't intend). He means only those (potentially unknown ones) who conform only to the description that he gives.

    In other languages, this difference can be marked in other ways, but in English it's quite subtle, albeit still an important distinction.

  • exactly what I said before, just more wordy.

  • ^that's how you use a comma

  • alternatively a semi colon would work

  • ^that's how you use a comma.

    That's how you use a full stop.

  • ^that's how you use a comma

    I have a reputation to defend, you know.

  • alternatively a semi colon would work

    Where? Not in EEI's first sentence it wouldn't.

  • ^^^no your a cunt

  • that's how you use a full stop.

    ☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞☞

  • ^^^ Hehe.

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