Remember kids... always wear a helmet. (The almighty bikeradar helmet thread)

Coming from you, I'm not sure whether that is more tragic or more comic.

Anyway, the full texts of all the relevant laws are available for you to read, and if you have a different opinion from me and every cycle helmet manufacturer trading in the UK, there's nothing to stop you from making a helmet which passes whatever test standard you deem appropriate and offering it for sale, as long as it passes EN1078 too and carries the legally mandated labels, you only have to argue in court over the meaning of "could be confused with the EC mark"

As far as current production helmets which are Snell tested go, Specialized seem to be the last mainstream manufacturer who still submit their hats to Snell, looks like most of their current production is certified B-90A

Yup, I've read the texts you posted and nowhere does it refer to bicycle helmets being treated differently from any other PPE categories, which do use independent testers in their literature, for example motor cycle helmets. And the laws you're linked to are concerning territorial standard marks not independent marks. Really, there's no law which specifically prohibits bicycle manufacturers. They choose not to use the independent standards tests, nobody is stopping them.

One question remains unanswered...

...Should I wear a helmet?

always.

...Should I wear a helmet?

I think Muppet is about to go into production with his Snell-approved tin foil one, probably worth waiting for that before committing to a purchase.

This is entirely representative of your thoroughness. The Specialized Evade, a new model for 2013, is on the list.

Yup, it's has passed the Snell test, and is marketed in the UK as having passed. Which I though you stated was prohibited? ;-) It must be their lawyers haven't noticed it.

"I think Muppet is about to go into production with his Snell-approved tin foil one, probably worth waiting for that before committing to a purchase."

Must spread rep etc. etc...

Cricket thread >>>>>>>

Yup, it's has passed the Snell test, and is marketed in the UK as having passed. Which I though you stated was prohibited? ;-) It must be their lawyers haven't noticed it.

Show me where. http://www.specialized.com/gb/gb/ftr/helmets/road-helmets/sworks-evade says

Complies with one or more of the following safety standards for bicycle helmets: CPSC, SNELL B90A, CE and AS/NZS

Which is not a statement that it complies with Snell B-90A, only that B-90A is one of the possible standards it might meet.
But your tin foil hat seems to be proof against what I've actually been saying; the prohibition applies to labels affixed to the product (or to the packaging where the product is too small to be labelled, but even a pin head like you probably wears a hat big enough to carry a "Certified" sticker). Show me a Snell sticker on a UK sourced Specialized Evade.

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@ramaye & @bluequinn... Well, that was constructive. Why write shit on a thread you don't give a fuck about? Feels a bit sad really. And ramaye, to go to the effort to insert a picture, that's just embarrassing.

Says the person who keep rubbishing people's comment

... to me it is clear - you should be using as many of your senses as possible.

This, absolutley this, which is why I like to lick the windows when I am on a bus ride so I can warn the driver of any obstacles up ahead.

#as useful as anything else in this thread

i ride by smell alone

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It's still strange however that they sell both product groups in entirely different ways, one as a safety protective item and the other as a fashion item.
There is a difference between marketing because if a cycle helmet manufacturer made any claim about the protective capability of their product they would be sued for millions by the families of the dozens of people killed and the hundreds with brain injuries acquired while wearing helmets each year.
That's why they only market on style and comfort.
Wearing motorcycle helmets is compulsory so the manufacturers are protected against being sued when the helmets don't work, as long as there a few stickers on the helmet and no obvious manufacturing flaws. That frees them and allows all sorts of advertising claims to be made that will never be challenged

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Has this been resolved yet?

Has this been resolved yet?

No, but if you're worried, this one passed a much more stringent test
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m2INLEc93m4

^^^ Six cups on the left. Mind blown.

Which is not a statement that it complies with Snell B-90A, only that B-90A is one of the possible standards it might meet.

Show me a Snell sticker on a UK sourced Specialized Evade.

Sure, and that's all I've ever said, that they can include Snell in the sales literature. Which where this all started, you stated that Bell couldn't.

I also, never ever mentioned anything at all about stickers on products or anything else. I simiply said that Bell market their motorcycle helmets with independent tests, and that their bicycle helmets aren't marketed in the same way. To which you countered, that they couldn't legally. But Specalized do have the Snell bit on their page, as well as the mandatory ones, which is a HUGE step up, from Bell having nothing at all.

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Have a cat up for kitten bowling...it is already missing loads of teeth.

So can I have thread precis?

I think Muppet is about to go into production with his Snell-approved tin foil one, probably worth waiting for that before committing to a purchase.

While the cat has his fun I'm wondering how stupid for the human must be to tide up all that plastic.

But then, sure thing is that posting it on the internet must give some serious satisfaction.

Fat - glasses - greying beard - are you on here ?

Fat - glasses - greying beard - are you on here ?

Fat - glasses - greying beard... Like a photo of themselves and their cat wearing tinfoil helmets wouldn't single them out :)