• The net is closing in.

  • Even better, he claimed part ownership under oath;

    Lance Armstrong Testimony

  • Page 7 by the way, if you're interested in looking.

    Isn't changing his story lacking in credibility? At least that's what he's accusing Landis of. Oh the irony.

  • Did he just throw JB under the bus?

  • Page 7 by the way, if you're interested in looking.

    Isn't changing his story lacking in credibility? At least that's what he's accusing Landis of. Oh the irony.

    Page 8 for me? Page 7 is methodology of how giving evidence under oath works.

  • Armstrong really sounds seriously under pressure. This paragraph (from the NY Times article) makes no sense:

    “Do the American people feel like this is a good use of their tax dollars?” he said. “That’s for them to decide. Like I said, as long as we have a legitimate and credible and fair investigation, we’d be happy to cooperate. But I’m not going to participate in any kind of witch hunt. I’ve done too many good things for too many people.”

    So, he determines whether the investigation is fair etc., and if it turns into a 'witch hunt' in his opinion, he just stops participating, because he good he's done far outweighs any need for him to participate?

    I've read the following use of English a couple of times now in what they've been saying:

    Bruyneel said last week that the Landis’s allegations were false and that he and Armstrong had not been fazed by them at this Tour.

    Floyd lied to the public for years, so why should anyone believe him now,” Bruyneel said. “He has no credibility. Whatever he says doesn’t bother us.”

    It's subtle, but what he means to say is that 'Floyd has lied', or, better still, 'has been lying' to the public for years. The past tense in English means that the action described is finished and over, so what he's saying is 'Floyd lied to the public for years, and I'm implying that now he's telling the truth. Why should anyone believe him now?' Er, yes, why?

    I suspect Bruyneel is using the past tense as he would use the past tense in Dutch or German, where it has a somewhat different function.

  • "I’ve done too many good things for too many people."

    This is really revealing. Even the most determined dopers have some sort of conscience, some understanding that what they are doing is not right, and they use all sorts of mental tricks to assuage that guilt: Everyone does it, it's not dope it's medicine, they are recovery products, cycling clean is actually bad for your health and on and on. Armstrong has clearly added a new one: My success has saved lives so what does it matter how I achieved that success? God dammit, when you think about it, every injection I ever had was a step closer to a cure for cancer. How can that be wrong?
    Desperate times indeed.

  • is he wearing black socks for a reason?

    (sorry to be thick)

  • He's funny, isn't he.

  • I like black socks - not tennis ones though.

    FDA: Did you wear black tennis socks?
    LA: Absolutely not. Never. 100%. If other riders in the team were wearing black tennis socks, I didn't know anything about it. How could I? I only cured cancer, I'm not some kind of all seeing god.
    FDA: But you're wearing black tennis socks now.
    LA: They're not black, they're just dirty.

  • why is he wearing black socks though? is it "bad guys wear black?"

  • It's just socks, socks, socks with some people.

  • sorry if i surprised you with the stealth shout of "will" yesterday (george st 5pm)....

  • why is he wearing black socks though? is it "bad guys wear black?"

    What colour socks are you wearing? Does it have any symbolic significance?

  • Anyway, Lance doesn't wear black socks. He wears black color sox.

  • i'm not wearing socks.

  • In that case, I don't want to get into it.

  • I have a bit of a thing about naked feet, inasmuch as I don't like them. Verging on podophobia.

  • "I’ve done too many good things for too many people."

    This is really revealing. Even the most determined dopers have some sort of conscience, some understanding that what they are doing is not right, and they use all sorts of mental tricks to assuage that guilt: Everyone does it, it's not dope it's medicine, they are recovery products, cycling clean is actually bad for your health and on and on. Armstrong has clearly added a new one: My success has saved lives so what does it matter how I achieved that success? God dammit, when you think about it, every injection I ever had was a step closer to a cure for cancer. How can that be wrong?
    Desperate times indeed.

    he's been telling himself this years. in his head he didn't dope. it's his own self administered cognitive therapy.

    i can't wait for the tearful live tv confession.

  • ^you've been saying that for so long now, it's starting to sound like you really believe it.

  • i have my little mantra written on a piece of paper, i carry it with me at all times.
    i feel safe knowing it's there.

  • I also think Armstrong carries a fear which goes well beyond the one that all dopers have. It is one thing to be caught and sanctioned as a cyclist, it is another to be exposed as having lied to millions of cancer sufferers, to have, essentially, offered them false hope, a mendacious narrative that they were supposed to be able to apply to their own lives and their own futures. However much he tells himself that the end has justified the means, however many dollars he can say he has raised, the fear of the shame that exposure would engender and the ostracism and the contempt that would be directed at him must be a horrible thing to carry around.

  • Tabloid headline.

    Armstrong is a cheat.

    Joe public:
    Who?
    You know Lance, the guy with the yellow wrist bands. He cheated at bike racing and shit.
    Oh, Who's Tweedy yentzing this week.

    I don't think the public gives a toss.

  • There seems to be a fondness for victims in contemporary life, even those who are victims of themselves. You might get some cycling fans berating him, and some authorities, but if the public does give a toss, it may end up being supportive; if he blubs enough.

    I don't know whether that's a good or a bad thing. Maybe it's just a thing.

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