Lance Armstrong... greatest doper there was or ever will be

Lance Armstrong cured cancer you haterz!

what's an omerta? I didn't know Wayne went to Uni.

It's like a badger, but smaller and more pink.

Armstrong…also claims he's the most tested athlete ever but data available from the USADA shows he was not even the most tested cyclist called Armstrong, female cyclist Kristin Armstrong was tested more regularly.

This is a case of Chinese whispers. The original claim was true. He is the most detested athlete in the world.

Hincapie and Livingston next?

Typical that this has come out during the Giro and has taken attention away from the heroic achievements of a rider who survived beef poisoning and has gone on to be the greatest athlete of all time.

Jesus Christ Phil and Paul are a couple of self serving cunts. ATOC

Hincapie has testified that he saw lance do epo

Hincapie and Livingston next?

Hincapie has i suspect just ended his career as a pro cyclist. Has testified that armstrong took epo and hgh.

That sound you hear is Greg LeMond dancing a little jig on the hardwood floor of his study.

This is very different and difficult for Armstongs cronies and lawyers, it's going to be very dificult to paint "good guy" Hincapie as some sort of lieing loony.

apparently george says he never spoke to 60 mins...
http://twitter.com/#!/ghincapie

He denies speaking to 60 Minutes, but they only reported that he testified to the Feds that he and Lance doped. He hasn't denied that he testified or that he and Armstrong were juiced, he refuses to comment on that.

Comes across as avoiding the question by answering a different one to me. Much like the "I've never tested positive" response to the "have you doped?" question.

So hincapie has confessed to doping and had scored 1/10 on the leaked UCI list. UCI really haven't got a fucking clue...

So hincapie has confessed to doping and had scored 1/10 on the leaked UCI list. UCI really haven't got a fucking clue...

neither have you. the list is based on the blood passport that has only been in existence a short time and the rating is purely used as a guide for doping control based on recent test readings. the doping Hincapie refers to is from lance's tour winning US-postal era.

neither have you. the list is based on the blood passport that has only been in existence a short time and the rating is purely used as a guide for doping control based on recent test readings. the doping Hincapie refers to is from lance's tour winning US-postal era.

No the list was based on a number of factors, including the blood passport. Including the UCI's own (arguably somewhat biased) opinion. From Pat McQuaid:

"Individual scores were drawn up using several elements: data from a rider's biological passport, whetehr the rider has been tested recently or not and 'sporting considerations' which are listed by McQuaid to include race results, ambition and objectives. "

all concerned with the current or past season, Millar wasn't a 10 was he?
you are right about the UCI not having a clue, about anything...

Right then, who are we declaring the winner of the 1999 TdF?

1. Lance Armstrong
   
2. Alex Zülle
   
3. Fernando Escartín
   
4. Laurent Dufaux
   
5. Ángel Casero
   
6. Abraham Olano
   
7. Daniele Nardello
   
8. Richard Virenque
   
9. Wladimir Belli
   
10. Andrea Peron
    
11. Kurt Van De Wouwer
    
12. David Etxebarria
    
13. Tyler Hamilton
    
14. Stéphane Heulot
    
15. Roland Meier
    
16. Benoît Salmon
    
17. Alberto Elli
    
18. Paolo Lanfranchi
    
19. Carlos Contreras
    
20. Georg Totschnig
    
    

Once we've decided I'll send the link to the UCI so they can get on to doing something about it

Can we see the rest of the GC?

Actually it's Robbie McEwan.

Well done Robbie

1. Lance Armstrong
   
2. Alex Zülle
   
3. Fernando Escartín
   
4. Laurent Dufaux
   
5. Ángel Casero
   
6. Abraham Olano
   
7. Daniele Nardello
   
8. Richard Virenque
   
9. Wladimir Belli
   
10. Andrea Peron
    
11. Kurt Van De Wouwer
    
12. David Etxebarria
    
13. Tyler Hamilton
    
14. Stéphane Heulot
    
15. Roland Meier
    
16. Benoît Salmon
    
17. Alberto Elli
    
18. Paolo Lanfranchi
    
19. Carlos Contreras
    
20. Georg Totschnig
    
21. Andy.w (can't afford drugs)
    
22. Hippy (the drugs don't work)
    
23. RPM (insider)
    
24. BRM (doper)
    
25. MrsMyth (undercover agent*)
    
    
    
    

*possibly works for hello magazine.

some of the comments on his facebook page are cringeworthy

*"$80,000,000 raised for cancer research! Biggest contribution to humanity for an individual in the history of mankind! Any other fact (or speculation) is entirely insignificant."

"the people who believe in you don't need to refer to any website to fact check! never a doubt in mind ever."

"No convincing or explanations needed, have always been convinced, on you side - thanks."

"All this allegations against Lance is hurting a lot of people, I believe Lance and his family is also affected by this bullshit accusations, but the most affected are the people that believe in him, especially those afflicted with cancer"

"Lance, we love and believe in you! When the devil whispers in your ear and makes you promises of money and fame, its hard for some people to ignore. Stay positive!"

"I take you at your word Lance, I have no reason not to believe you. Thanks to you I quit smoking after thirty years. I have been smoke free for almost a year now and have started bike riding to get back into shape. You are the man."

" try not to let it get to you Lance. You are a true American hero.**"

*
can the american psyche cope with the impending fallout?

can the american psyche cope with the impending fallout?

Do you remember how big a start OJ was before he murdered his wife? Lance will be just another, and rather less significant, fallen hero. There will always be true-believers/nutters for whom no amount of evidence will be enough, but you shouldn't conflate them with the generality of the American populace.

What's really cringeworthy is Brits talking about Americans.

Or Canadians talking about.. well anything. :P