Mudguards

Skully post said it best;

I don't really get why anybody is so resistant to using a sodding mudguard.

All your conclusion pointed out that there's really no alternated to mudguard other than not riding your damn bicycle.

true

How can you be so pretentious while your bike is so uggly?

predictable slagging off of my ugly bike,
so its ugly and?

His point is why are you trying to avoid putting a full mudguard on an ugly bike, fair enough if it's a really nice looking bicycle, but a beater, what's the point?

Plus this look really smart;

yes you are right that bike does look good, have ordered a set of crud roadracer mk2 from CR! the ghetto style ones did work and keep the rear dry but looked bloody awful!

cruds are OK for what they are - shit with 25's though, and impossible with anything larger than that

cruds are OK for what they are - shit with 25's though, and impossible with anything larger than that

not the best recommendation from you then Dan?
why are they no good?

too narrow.

rub rub rub rub...

Plus, because the clearances are so tight, you get a build up of dirt etc.

I really just use them on the road bike to keep water off my feet and to be considerate to other people I'm riding with.

they are workable with 24mm's though - like Vittoria Pave's or the Conti's they do in 24.

That said, Vittoria 25's end up being huuuuuge, so you might be able to get away with other brands.

Hate to says it but suck it up and put this on.

what, without mudguard mounts?

Buy 2 pairs of the widers ones, remove the struts, then zip tie them to your legs, in front and behind.

what, without mudguard mounts?

He got the clearance on the rear for 2 mudguard, pump and several Knog lights on the seat tube;

(with p-clip naturally).

Crud Road Racers Mk2 are fine if you run on 23c. Can't imagine fitting anything larger without annoying rubbing issues. I have some fitted to my fuji track and they have made a world of difference. Didn't matter about the looks (can barely notice them) as the bike is ugly and functional anyway. I did have to add an extra zip tie on the rear brake bridge to keep the guard clear or the tyre. Rode through some short muddy patches on Sat. and they work really well.

He got the clearance on the rear for 2 mudguard, pump and several Knog lights on the seat tube;

(with p-clip naturally).

you really got it in for my bike! but your wrong the full mudguard goes between the wheel and brake caliper I think your trying to slag off my geometry
I know its because I mocked you at that party for wearing lilac Ugg boots

You're worried about your bike being ugly when it's already is.

Geometry look fine, no reason not to have proper mudguard, whether the Road Racer were designed for fag paper clearance.

Possibly this should be in the Blue Peter / DIY thread…

Edscoble’s question of 29th November (Any question answered) started the thinking - outcome spawned by Edscoble’s Heinz mudflap and Fox’s ‘ziptie rubbish’ comment.

Buggered if I can get photos to embed – have to make do with thumbnails

Assemble tools and materials: domestic iron, scissors, greaseproof paper, plywood / MDF, polythene bag(s)
IMPORTANT – ALWAYS USE GREASEPROOF PAPER TO PROTECT THE IRON AND PREVENT MOLTEN PLASTIC STICKING TO SOMEONE ELSE’S DOMESTIC APPLIANCE. (consider yourself cautioned…)
Preheat iron to ‘cotton’ (no steam) – may have to experiment a bit to get a temperature that welds the plastic without melting holes in it.
Cut polythene to size – around 5cm bigger than mudflap size – 10 to 20 pieces depending on thickness.
Place add layer of polythene, cover with greaseproof paper top and bottom, iron, hold flat with second piece of plywood until cool. Repeat until stiff enough. I used a full bin bag, giving a total thickness of around 0.4mm.
Final optional layer – cut out shapes in another colour or carefully selected coloured area of chosen carrier bag. Fix with iron as above.
Cut to shape with sharp scissors. Make fixing holes with a hot nail / broken spoke – if hot enough, the polythene will melt and form a thicker lip to the hole.
Attach to existing mudguard by favourite method – cable ties, screws, rivets, chewing gum etc.

I suspect Ed’s idea of riding in the wet and my experience of ‘mud’ on the road are leading to different requirements: rainwater mostly runs off, Shropshire mud and shit sticks and builds up until it fouls the tyre no matter how much clearance there is, cured only by stopping and scraping it off with a stick.

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I like your style MrE !!!!just been riding for about 2 hours in slush with something like that and my ghetto one at rear and no problems at all and actually don't care how much edscoble scoffs and titters

^ tech shit!

Buy 2 pairs of the widers ones, remove the struts, then zip tie them to your legs, in front and behind.

Now this is the kind of advice I'm looking for. Ed, take note

mudguards schmudguards

nice one edscoble!